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Doan Winkel: Building Friction, Autonomy, and Design with AI
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- Jul 18, 2026
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Building Friction, Autonomy, and Design with AI | Doan Winkel What if the best thing AI can do for students is refuse to help them? Matt sits down with entrepreneur and educator Doan Winkel to dig into why "helpful AI" might be the worst thing to happen to learning and what to do instead. In this episode: The philosophy behind AI Friction Labs and why deliberately frustrating students might be the most effective teaching tool yet Why Doan thinks the "easy button" problem isn't really an AI problem The ungrading experiment that revealed something startling: students aren't cheating at teachers. Teachers never even cross their minds. How one small prompt change turned a skeptical lawyer into an AI evangelist overnight Why the most resistant person in the room might be exactly who you need on your AI committee The inertia problem: education hasn't fundamentally changed in decades. Will AI finally be the thing that breaks it? Doan's take on student autonomy, and the uncomfortable question he ends with that has no clean answer Chapters: 0:00 Introduction & Guest Welcome 1:04 What Is AI Friction Labs? 5:01 The Sparring Partner Concept & Mike Kentz 5:43 Student Autonomy vs. the Easy Button 7:39 The Ungrading Experiment & AI Cheating Reality 14:54 Teacher Risk-Taking & Finding the Opening 15:56 AI in Rural Schools & Learning from Others' Mistakes 25:08 Designing Learning Experiences with AI 31:55 Bandwidth, Training & Building Champions 41:02 Curiosities: Breaking the Inertia of Education 44:33 Outro & Where to Find Doan Find Doan: LinkedIn Newsletter: How to Teach AI on Substack (free, weekly, practical ) Website: doanwinkel.com (00:00) - Introduction & Guest Welcome (01:03) - What Is AI Friction Labs? (05:01) - The Sparring Partner Concept &am…