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Washington Shuts Down a Frontier AI Model, Plus the 1,000-Year Lifespan Debate
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- Jun 15, 2026
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EPISODE DESCRIPTIONA frontier AI model got pulled offline by executive order this week, and Jason and Julie use it to open a bigger question. The government was ahead of nuclear and ahead of UAPs, and for the first time it is behind, trying to regulate a technology that did not start in its labs and that officials admit they do not fully understand. The two get into what happens to a business when its operating-system-level model goes dark overnight, why every company may want a fine-tuned open-source model sitting on a work laptop as a backup, and whether Dario Amodei's warnings about AI danger were conviction or pre-IPO positioning.The back half turns to the Moonshots podcast with Peter Diamandis and a claim that stops Julie cold: the first baby who will live to a thousand may already be born. They weigh cell-age reversal, GLP-1s as a possible longevity drug and the next Prozac, the FDA bottlenecks worth keeping, and the genetic-reprogramming debate that turns dystopian the second you move the line past disease. Plato's philosopher kings, lab-grown meat, Argentina recognizing AI personhood, and Elon's trillion-dollar paper valuation all get a turn.TIME STAMPS00:00 - A frontier model pulled offline by executive order03:30 - Was Dario Amodei's danger warning principle or pre-IPO positioning05:40 - Model routers and what happens when your operating-system model goes dark06:35 - AWS outages and why every business may need an open-source backup09:15 - Moonshots, longevity, and the first baby who may live a thousand years13:00 - Reversing a cell's age and whether we cure cancer this decade14:40 - GLP-1s as a longevity drug and the next Prozac17:30 - Philosopher kings, lab-grown meat, and following the money18:35 - Elon's trillion-dollar valuation and a stock market built o…