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Joyce Vance with Preet Bharara: Giving Up Is Unforgivable

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Summary

Join former US attorneys Joyce Vance and Preet Bharara for a conversation and special live podcast taping of Stay Tuned with Preet , about history, the law, and what it will take to save our democracy — and Vance's first book, Giving Up Is Unforgivable . "We're in this together." For the past two years, Joyce Vance has signed off posts on her the chart-topping Substack Civil Discourse with these four words as she's guided readers through a continued erosion of democratic norms. Now, in Giving Up Is Unforgivable , she reaffirms that we're in this together with a clarion call to action — putting our current crisis in historical context and sketching out a vision for where we go next. Hopeful, even as she acknowledges the daunting challenges that lie ahead, Vance is the constitutional law professor you never knew you needed, explaining the legal context, political history, and the practical reasons that the rule of law still matters. In a conversation between two brilliant legal thinkers and major figures in US law, hear Vance's political manifesto for our moment — an empowering conversation about taking action in your community, rallying for a new era of civic engagement, and finding hope when we need it most. "The most frequent question I get, from frustrated citizens worried about our democracy, is this: What can I do? In Giving Up Is Unforgivable , Joyce answers that question with actual action items. She inspires as she informs and offers pragmatic advice even as she waxes poetic about all that America is and can be. This is a shining tutorial and a reminder that we the people still have the power." — Preet Bharara