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Biology's Biggest Chicken and Egg Problem | Jacob Fine
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- Aug 12, 2025
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Summary
Life’s First Blueprint Wasn’t DNA; it was RNA. Read Jacob Fine’s latest publication here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022283625001901 Today we spoke with Jacob Fine, graduate student researcher in Computational Biology from the University of Toronto. We explore the physics of replication, the role of entropy and information theory, and how modern biology is reconnecting with theory to understand the most fundamental question in science. Our conversation takes place in a Russian sauna, where the hot and humid environment mimics some of the conditions needed for life to begin. Follow us for more technical interviews with the world’s greatest scientists: Twitter: https://x.com/632nmPodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/632nmpodcast?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw== LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/632nm/about/ Substack: https://632nmpodcast.substack.com/ Follow our hosts! Michael Dubrovsky: https://x.com/MikeDubrovsky Misha Shalaginov: https://x.com/MYShalaginov Xinghui Yin: https://x.com/XinghuiYin Subscribe: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/632nm/id1751170269 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4aVH9vT5qp5UUUvQ6Uf6OR Website: https://www.632nm.com Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 01:22 - What does any theory of the origin of life need to explain? 04:09 - When did people begin researching the origin of life? 06:51 - Competing theories of the origin of life 11:00 - The RNA world hypothesis 21:38 - Biological vs computational error 24:58 - Origin of life is the origin of information 33:30 - Without error, there would be no life 36:07 - Early compartmentalization mechanisms 47:26 - What do we need to prove theories on the origin of life? 57:23 - What makes a useful model for biology? 1:04…