{"podcast":{"title":"Zero Click Marketing","slug":"zero-click-marketing-7753148","podcast_index_feed_id":7753148,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/zero-click-marketing","website_url":"http://zeroclickmarketing.co/podcast","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/da9L7phYHdmaR0F3z4vfY3YfPtpt8Fax-b-r5NLkfVw/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9lMDlm/NDRhOGIzZTBjNDc2/ZGU1NWE3MTIzYjg2/ZDNmMy5qcGc.jpg","author":"Amanda Natividad","episode_count":22,"summary":"Zero Click Marketing is a marketing strategy podcast about content marketing, audience research, and how brands grow when clicks matter less. Hosted by Amanda Natividad, Chief Evangelist at SparkToro, the show explores how marketers reach audiences, build influence, and earn attention in a zero-click internet. New to the show? Start with Episode 2: What Zero Click Marketing Actually Is.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-23T18:17:54.465256+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/zero-click-marketing-7753148"},"episode":{"title":"The Clicks Lie","slug":"the-clicks-lie","published_at":"2026-03-10T00:47:36+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/zero-click-marketing-7753148/the-clicks-lie","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/zero-click-marketing-7753148","url":"https://share.transistor.fm/s/a01c1324","audio_url":"https://media.transistor.fm/a01c1324/e305c8c1.mp3","summary":"If clicks are your primary success metric, you're probably undercounting what's working — and over-rewarding what isn't. In the debut episode of Zero Click Marketing, I (Amanda Natividad) make the case that the click-based funnel isn't just outdated, it's actively misleading. And the cost isn't just bad measurement — it's bad decisions. In this episode: Why the click-based funnel made sense for a while — and exactly when it broke How Google, Instagram, LinkedIn, TikTok, and X all quietly started hoarding traffic What \"dark social\" is, and why it's a bigger deal than most teams realize Why AI tools like ChatGPT are the next frontier of zero-click — and what that means for your brand The 95/5 rule: why optimizing for conversions means ignoring 80% of your future buyers Amanda's own story: how she grew from 1,000 to 100,000+ followers without ever spending a dime Key insight from this episode: \"When you stop optimizing for the click and start optimizing for genuine value in the platform, you end up with better clicks — more intentional ones from people who actually want to be there.\" This episode is brought to you by SparkToro — the audience research tool that helps you find where your audience spends time, what they read, watch, and listen to, and who influences them. Learn more at sparktoro.com . This episode was edited by Share Your Genius ( shareyourgenius.com ) Learn more about Zero Click Marketing and Amanda Natividad: zeroclickmarketing.co amandanat.com Follow @amandanat on LinkedIn and Instagram","meta_description":"If clicks are your primary success metric, you're probably undercounting what's working — and over-rewarding what isn't. In the debut episode of Zero Clic…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":830,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/zero-click-marketing-7753148/episodes/the-clicks-lie/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/zero-click-marketing-7753148/the-clicks-lie.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}