{"podcast":{"title":"Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted","slug":"zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988","podcast_index_feed_id":6704988,"rss_url":"https://feed.podbean.com/ZachAbramowitzisLegallyDisrupted/feed.xml","website_url":"https://ZachAbramowitzisLegallyDisrupted.podbean.com","image_url":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/16578466/ZALD_Logo_2024_08_28_37ea3t.jpg","author":"Zach Abramowitz","episode_count":53,"summary":"This is a podcast for the people who want to understand and shape the future of the law. Hey there, I’m Zach Abramowitz and I am Legally Disrupted! 15 years ago, my legal career was disrupted by tech. Today, I’m advising the some of the most influential legal service providers in the world on their AI strategy and investing in some of the promising #legalAI startups. Every week, I talk to the builders, founders, operators, and decision-makers driving change in a legal ecosystem being reshaped by AI. We don’t just revel in the gloriousness of AI -- we do that too! But, we also break down complex ideas and separate signal from noise. Our content focuses on what’s real, what matters, and what everyone else is missing. So what are you waiting for? Let’s get disrupted!","last_synced_at":"2026-06-24T04:17:51.983782+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988"},"episode":{"title":"E39 - AI vs Legacy SaaS in Legal: Min-Kyu Jung, CEO Ivo","slug":"e39-ai-vs-legacy-saas-in-legal-min-kyu-jung-ceo-ivo","published_at":"2026-02-19T12:25:52+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988/e39-ai-vs-legacy-saas-in-legal-min-kyu-jung-ceo-ivo","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988","url":"https://ZachAbramowitzisLegallyDisrupted.podbean.com/e/e39-ai-vs-legacy-saas-in-legal-min-kyu-jung-ceo-ivo/","audio_url":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/jgxqayw995nvmx59/ZALD_-_2026_02_05_-_Min_Kyu_-_Edit_2anzgx.mp3","summary":"Zach sits down with Min-Kyu Jung, founder of Ivo, to unpack one of the most honest AI startup stories in legal tech. This episode explores what it really takes to pivot in an AI revolution, why CLM may be in trouble, and how in-house legal teams are rethinking ROI in the age of AI.In this episode: Why Ivo scrapped its original product to go all-in on LLMs The “innovator’s dilemma” facing legacy CLM vendors Why in-house legal and law firms are fundamentally different AI markets How AI playbooks and redlining actually create ROI The shift from “adoption” to measurable business impact Why speed often matters more than accuracy in AI UX How contract intelligence is becoming CLM 2.0 Learn More: Min-Kyu - https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/alumni/our-alumni/40-under-40/a-z-list-of-profiles/min-kyu-jung.html Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Follow Along: Min-Kyu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/min-kyu-jung Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz","meta_description":"Zach sits down with Min-Kyu Jung, founder of Ivo, to unpack one of the most honest AI startup stories in legal tech. This episode explores what it really…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3141,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988/episodes/e39-ai-vs-legacy-saas-in-legal-min-kyu-jung-ceo-ivo/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988/e39-ai-vs-legacy-saas-in-legal-min-kyu-jung-ceo-ivo.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}