{"podcast":{"title":"Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted","slug":"zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988","podcast_index_feed_id":6704988,"rss_url":"https://feed.podbean.com/ZachAbramowitzisLegallyDisrupted/feed.xml","website_url":"https://ZachAbramowitzisLegallyDisrupted.podbean.com","image_url":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/16578466/ZALD_Logo_2024_08_28_37ea3t.jpg","author":"Zach Abramowitz","episode_count":53,"summary":"This is a podcast for the people who want to understand and shape the future of the law. Hey there, I’m Zach Abramowitz and I am Legally Disrupted! 15 years ago, my legal career was disrupted by tech. Today, I’m advising the some of the most influential legal service providers in the world on their AI strategy and investing in some of the promising #legalAI startups. Every week, I talk to the builders, founders, operators, and decision-makers driving change in a legal ecosystem being reshaped by AI. We don’t just revel in the gloriousness of AI -- we do that too! But, we also break down complex ideas and separate signal from noise. Our content focuses on what’s real, what matters, and what everyone else is missing. So what are you waiting for? Let’s get disrupted!","last_synced_at":"2026-06-24T04:17:51.983782+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988"},"episode":{"title":"E36 - Too Much FOMO: Why I'm Back on the Legal AI Startup Investor Train with Sandstone CEO Nick Fleisher","slug":"e36-too-much-fomo-why-i-m-back-on-the-legal-ai-startup-investor-train-with-sandstone-ceo-nick-fleisher","published_at":"2026-01-14T14:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988/e36-too-much-fomo-why-i-m-back-on-the-legal-ai-startup-investor-train-with-sandstone-ceo-nick-fleisher","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988","url":"https://ZachAbramowitzisLegallyDisrupted.podbean.com/e/e36-why-im-betting-on-in-house-legal-ai-sandstone-ceo-nick-fleisher/","audio_url":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/wa4igvgvpj39pnba/ZALD_-_2025_12_22_-_Nick_Fleisher_-_Edit_19t4yv.mp3","summary":"Zach announces that, for the first time since ChatGPT launched, he's investing in a legal AI startup. In this episode, he's joined by Nick Fleisher, CEO of Sandstone, to unpack why in-house legal teams, not law firms, may be the biggest winners of the AI era. Drawing on Nick's background at McKinsey where he advised law firms on AI, the conversation explores why legacy tools are failing lawyers and how AI can solve a problem that plagues in-house teams: working seamlessly with their business without slowing them down and being a bottleneck. In this episode: Why Zach decided to invest in a legal AI startup now What in-house legal teams actually need from AI Why CLM tools struggle with adoption and ROI How AI changes legal’s relationship with the business Measuring success beyond “time to contract” Why vertical legal software beats generic AI tools What makes Sandstone different from Harvey, Legora, and CLMs References: $10M Seed Round Announcement Learn More:Zach - legallydisrupted.comNick - sandstone.com Follow Along:Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitzNick - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-fleisher","meta_description":"Zach announces that, for the first time since ChatGPT launched, he's investing in a legal AI startup. In this episode, he's joined by Nick Fleisher, CEO o…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3036,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988/episodes/e36-too-much-fomo-why-i-m-back-on-the-legal-ai-startup-investor-train-with-sandstone-ceo-nick-fleisher/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988/e36-too-much-fomo-why-i-m-back-on-the-legal-ai-startup-investor-train-with-sandstone-ceo-nick-fleisher.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}