{"podcast":{"title":"Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted","slug":"zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988","podcast_index_feed_id":6704988,"rss_url":"https://feed.podbean.com/ZachAbramowitzisLegallyDisrupted/feed.xml","website_url":"https://ZachAbramowitzisLegallyDisrupted.podbean.com","image_url":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/16578466/ZALD_Logo_2024_08_28_37ea3t.jpg","author":"Zach Abramowitz","episode_count":53,"summary":"This is a podcast for the people who want to understand and shape the future of the law. Hey there, I’m Zach Abramowitz and I am Legally Disrupted! 15 years ago, my legal career was disrupted by tech. Today, I’m advising the some of the most influential legal service providers in the world on their AI strategy and investing in some of the promising #legalAI startups. Every week, I talk to the builders, founders, operators, and decision-makers driving change in a legal ecosystem being reshaped by AI. We don’t just revel in the gloriousness of AI -- we do that too! But, we also break down complex ideas and separate signal from noise. Our content focuses on what’s real, what matters, and what everyone else is missing. So what are you waiting for? Let’s get disrupted!","last_synced_at":"2026-06-24T04:17:51.983782+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988"},"episode":{"title":"E33 - Building the AI-First Law Firm: Jen Berrent on Covenant and the Next Era of Legal Services","slug":"e33-building-the-ai-first-law-firm-jen-berrent-on-covenant-and-the-next-era-of-legal-services","published_at":"2025-11-13T13:42:37+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988/e33-building-the-ai-first-law-firm-jen-berrent-on-covenant-and-the-next-era-of-legal-services","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988","url":"https://ZachAbramowitzisLegallyDisrupted.podbean.com/e/e33-building-the-ai-first-law-firm-jen-berrent-on-covenant-and-the-next-era-of-legal-services/","audio_url":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/98s75nvfvcjgmxhi/ZALD_E33_Jen_Edit_1.mp3","summary":"Zach talks with Jen Berrent, former WeWork executive and founder of Covenant, an AI-first law firm reimagining how deals get done. They dive deep into what it means to build a law firm from the ground up around artificial intelligence — not as a tool, but as the foundation. Jen shares her perspective on why too much work still runs through Big Law, how AI is transforming the middle tier of legal work, and what it takes to balance human expertise with machine efficiency. In this episode: What an “AI-first” law firm actually looks like How Covenant is redesigning legal workflows from scratch The problem with Big Law’s “too much work, too few alternatives” model Why reading comprehension is AI’s legal superpower Building client trust in the age of automation How AI can accelerate deals — without sacrificing rigor The difference between a “relationship ramp” and a “SaaS snowball” The challenges (and advantages) of raising funding in legal AI Lessons from Robin AI’s struggles — and why clarity of business model matters Why this is a once-in-a-generation moment for lawyers who want to innovate Learn More:Zach – legallydisrupted.comJen – https://covenant.co/about Follow Along:Zach – linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitzJen – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferberrent","meta_description":"Zach talks with Jen Berrent, former WeWork executive and founder of Covenant, an AI-first law firm reimagining how deals get done. They dive deep into wha…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3072,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988/episodes/e33-building-the-ai-first-law-firm-jen-berrent-on-covenant-and-the-next-era-of-legal-services/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988/e33-building-the-ai-first-law-firm-jen-berrent-on-covenant-and-the-next-era-of-legal-services.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}