{"podcast":{"title":"You Can Be Both","slug":"you-can-be-both-7576307","podcast_index_feed_id":7576307,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/10b47a908/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/you-can-be-both","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/44742130/44742130-1762547217244-a90f5ddea203c.jpg","author":"Lauren Lanzaretta","episode_count":36,"summary":"You Can Be Both is hosted by singer/songwriter Lauren Lanzaretta, who shares honest conversations about being both gay and Christian—two identities often seen as incompatible. The podcast creates space for LGBTQ+ people of faith to find healing, community, and a deeper connection with Christ while fully embracing who they are. As a first step to your healing journey, I recommend the “LGBTQ+ Healing & Resource Guide” - go to www.youcanbeboth.com for this and other resources. Join the You Can Be Both Community App https://youcanbeboth.mn.co/plans/1984569?bundle_token=a02f1c1a95e905aa187210545","last_synced_at":"2026-07-05T14:19:26.748663+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-can-be-both-7576307"},"episode":{"title":"The Psychological Damage of Being Told You’re Going to Hell | Explained by a Therapist","slug":"the-psychological-damage-of-being-told-you-re-going-to-hell-explained-by-a-therapist","published_at":"2026-02-15T16:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-can-be-both-7576307/the-psychological-damage-of-being-told-you-re-going-to-hell-explained-by-a-therapist","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-can-be-both-7576307","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/you-can-be-both/episodes/The-Psychological-Damage-of-Being-Told-Youre-Going-to-Hell--Explained-by-a-Therapist-e3f3dbb","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/10b47a908/podcast/play/115503915/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-1-14%2F418104017-44100-2-90f1f6928dc4f.mp3","summary":"To inquire about Candace's services please visit: https://www.thechristiancloset.com/ Follow her on Instagram at: @lesbiantherapist Can you be gay and Christian? What does growing up LGBTQ in the church actually do to your mental health? And how do you heal from years of being told you’re going to hell? In this episode of You Can Be Both, host Lauren Lanzaretta sits down with licensed therapist Candice Czubernat, founder of The Christian Closet and an LGBTQ+ affirming counseling practice, to unpack religious trauma, conversion therapy, shame, and the psychological impact of growing up gay in conservative Christianity. Candice shares her journey from attending Moody Bible Institute to falling in love with a woman, navigating spiritual abuse, and eventually building a thriving practice helping LGBTQ Christians heal. In this episode, we discuss: • What religious trauma does to your nervous system • The psychological damage of being told you’re going to hell • How conversion therapy harms LGBTQ people • How to tell the difference between fear and Holy Spirit conviction • Why “sin feels good” theology is deeply damaging • Learning to trust yourself again • Healing shame as a gay Christian • Rebuilding your relationship with God • What affirming therapy should actually look like If you’ve ever struggled with anxiety, shame, fear of hell, or distrust of yourself because of your sexuality and faith — this episode is for you. You are not broken. You are not beyond God’s love. And healing is possible. 📖 Download the LGBTQ Christian Healing Guide: https://www.laurenlanzaretta.com/youcanbeboth 🎙 Subscribe for more conversations on faith, sexuality, and mental health 💬 Share this with someone who needs to hear it 📲 Follow us on TikTok and Instagram ⁨@YouCanBeBoth⁩","meta_description":"To inquire about Candace's services please visit: https://www.thechristiancloset.com/ Follow her on Instagram at: @lesbiantherapist Can you be gay and Chr…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3572,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/you-can-be-both-7576307/episodes/the-psychological-damage-of-being-told-you-re-going-to-hell-explained-by-a-therapist/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-can-be-both-7576307/the-psychological-damage-of-being-told-you-re-going-to-hell-explained-by-a-therapist.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}