{"podcast":{"title":"You Can Be Both","slug":"you-can-be-both-7576307","podcast_index_feed_id":7576307,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/10b47a908/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/you-can-be-both","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/44742130/44742130-1762547217244-a90f5ddea203c.jpg","author":"Lauren Lanzaretta","episode_count":36,"summary":"You Can Be Both is hosted by singer/songwriter Lauren Lanzaretta, who shares honest conversations about being both gay and Christian—two identities often seen as incompatible. The podcast creates space for LGBTQ+ people of faith to find healing, community, and a deeper connection with Christ while fully embracing who they are. As a first step to your healing journey, I recommend the “LGBTQ+ Healing & Resource Guide” - go to www.youcanbeboth.com for this and other resources. Join the You Can Be Both Community App https://youcanbeboth.mn.co/plans/1984569?bundle_token=a02f1c1a95e905aa187210545","last_synced_at":"2026-07-05T14:19:26.748663+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-can-be-both-7576307"},"episode":{"title":"The Power of Allies: Why This Straight White Male Pastor INCLUDES LGBTQ+ in Church","slug":"the-power-of-allies-why-this-straight-white-male-pastor-includes-lgbtq-in-church","published_at":"2026-02-01T16:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-can-be-both-7576307/the-power-of-allies-why-this-straight-white-male-pastor-includes-lgbtq-in-church","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-can-be-both-7576307","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/you-can-be-both/episodes/The-Power-of-Allies-Why-This-Straight-White-Male-Pastor-INCLUDES-LGBTQ-in-Church-e3eess1","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/10b47a908/podcast/play/114831681/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-0-31%2F417210789-44100-2-77e9168220a82.mp3","summary":"What does it mean when a straight, white male pastor says LGBTQ+ people fully belong in the church? In this powerful episode of the You Can Be Both Podcast, host Lauren Lanzaretta welcomes her first-ever guest, Danny Lybarger — a straight, white male pastor, theologian, and founder of The Well: An Inclusive & Justice-Centered Church in the St. Louis area. Danny is known for using his platform, privilege, and voice within the church to advocate loudly for LGBTQ+ inclusion, even when it put his ordination, funding, and career at risk. His viral TikToks challenge harmful theology and center a message many queer Christians have never heard from someone who “fits” traditional church leadership: you are not excluded from God’s table. Together, Lauren and Danny unpack some of the most searched, debated, and emotionally charged questions in Christianity today, including: • Can LGBTQ+ people be Christians? • Are gay people going to hell? • What does the Bible actually say about homosexuality? • Why “welcoming” churches often aren’t affirming • How to tell if a church is truly LGBTQ+ affirming • Why church trauma drives so many queer people away from faith • The responsibility of straight allies and pastors to speak up• United Methodist theology vs evangelical Christianity • The Wesleyan Quadrilateral (Scripture, tradition, reason, experience) • Responding to clobber verses, proof-texting, and online hate • Why representation in church leadership matters • How radical inclusion is not political—it’s deeply biblical Danny also shares the real consequences of choosing affirmation: performing same-sex marriages before his denomination allowed it, risking being defrocked, receiving hate mail, and building a church in one of the most conservative counties in Missouri—while refusi…","meta_description":"What does it mean when a straight, white male pastor says LGBTQ+ people fully belong in the church? In this powerful episode of the You Can Be Both Podcas…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3747,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/you-can-be-both-7576307/episodes/the-power-of-allies-why-this-straight-white-male-pastor-includes-lgbtq-in-church/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-can-be-both-7576307/the-power-of-allies-why-this-straight-white-male-pastor-includes-lgbtq-in-church.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}