{"podcast":{"title":"You Can Be Both","slug":"you-can-be-both-7576307","podcast_index_feed_id":7576307,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/10b47a908/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/you-can-be-both","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/44742130/44742130-1762547217244-a90f5ddea203c.jpg","author":"Lauren Lanzaretta","episode_count":36,"summary":"You Can Be Both is hosted by singer/songwriter Lauren Lanzaretta, who shares honest conversations about being both gay and Christian—two identities often seen as incompatible. The podcast creates space for LGBTQ+ people of faith to find healing, community, and a deeper connection with Christ while fully embracing who they are. As a first step to your healing journey, I recommend the “LGBTQ+ Healing & Resource Guide” - go to www.youcanbeboth.com for this and other resources. Join the You Can Be Both Community App https://youcanbeboth.mn.co/plans/1984569?bundle_token=a02f1c1a95e905aa187210545","last_synced_at":"2026-07-05T14:19:26.748663+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-can-be-both-7576307"},"episode":{"title":"Gospel Singer Lost Everything When She Came Out as Gay — Now Married to Captain Sandy Yawn","slug":"gospel-singer-lost-everything-when-she-came-out-as-gay-now-married-to-captain-sandy-yawn","published_at":"2026-06-14T15:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-can-be-both-7576307/gospel-singer-lost-everything-when-she-came-out-as-gay-now-married-to-captain-sandy-yawn","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-can-be-both-7576307","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/you-can-be-both/episodes/Gospel-Singer-Lost-Everything-When-She-Came-Out-as-Gay--Now-Married-to-Captain-Sandy-Yawn-e3kj59i","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/10b47a908/podcast/play/121262834/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-10%2F425880247-44100-2-15cba20b2f59d.mp3","summary":"For more than 20 years, Leah Rae Yawn (formerly Shafer) was a gospel worship leader at Saddleback Church. She sang for Women of Faith, worked with Michael W. Smith and Natalie Grant, recorded multiple albums, and sung the national anthem at NFL games. Her voice and faith were her livelihood, her heart, and her life. Then she came out as gay — and lost it all. In this powerful episode of You Can Be Both, Leah Rae opens up about her journey from a strict Christian upbringing to realizing she was bisexual, her 21-year marriage to a man, and the moment she met Captain Sandy Yawn from Bravo's Below Deck Mediterranean — the first woman she ever truly loved. When the churches that had been her home for decades discovered her relationship with Sandy, they rejected her completely. She was no longer allowed to lead worship. Her platform vanished. The community she'd served for two decades turned their backs. But in losing everything, Leah found something greater: authenticity, freedom, and a partner who loves her unconditionally. In this episode, Leah shares: How she suppressed her sexuality for decades while leading worship The moment she knew she was drawn to women What it felt like to lose her church community overnight Her relationship with Captain Sandy and what true love means now Why LGBTQ+ people belong in church and can lead worship Her message to LGBTQ+ people still struggling in the closet or in unsupportive churches Leah's Powerful Message: \"If you can't find a church that you feel like you belong to, there's so many other beautiful things out there that can help you thrive. Church is not a building — it's the soul.\" This is a conversation about faith, rejection, love, and reclaiming your voice. If you've been rejected by a faith community, if you're struggling to co…","meta_description":"For more than 20 years, Leah Rae Yawn (formerly Shafer) was a gospel worship leader at Saddleback Church. She sang for Women of Faith, worked with Michael…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3456,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/you-can-be-both-7576307/episodes/gospel-singer-lost-everything-when-she-came-out-as-gay-now-married-to-captain-sandy-yawn/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-can-be-both-7576307/gospel-singer-lost-everything-when-she-came-out-as-gay-now-married-to-captain-sandy-yawn.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}