{"podcast":{"title":"You Can Be Both","slug":"you-can-be-both-7576307","podcast_index_feed_id":7576307,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/10b47a908/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/you-can-be-both","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/44742130/44742130-1762547217244-a90f5ddea203c.jpg","author":"Lauren Lanzaretta","episode_count":36,"summary":"You Can Be Both is hosted by singer/songwriter Lauren Lanzaretta, who shares honest conversations about being both gay and Christian—two identities often seen as incompatible. The podcast creates space for LGBTQ+ people of faith to find healing, community, and a deeper connection with Christ while fully embracing who they are. As a first step to your healing journey, I recommend the “LGBTQ+ Healing & Resource Guide” - go to www.youcanbeboth.com for this and other resources. Join the You Can Be Both Community App https://youcanbeboth.mn.co/plans/1984569?bundle_token=a02f1c1a95e905aa187210545","last_synced_at":"2026-07-05T14:19:26.748663+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-can-be-both-7576307"},"episode":{"title":"Does Conversion Therapy Work? A Survivor Tells the TRUTH","slug":"does-conversion-therapy-work-a-survivor-tells-the-truth","published_at":"2026-02-08T16:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-can-be-both-7576307/does-conversion-therapy-work-a-survivor-tells-the-truth","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-can-be-both-7576307","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/you-can-be-both/episodes/Does-Conversion-Therapy-Work--A-Survivor-Tells-the-TRUTH-e3epjrg","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/10b47a908/podcast/play/115182896/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-1-8%2F417679152-44100-2-ef0124af6e053.mp3","summary":"Does conversion therapy work? What actually happens behind closed doors in Christian “ex-gay” programs—and why do people stay for years? In this episode of The You Can Be Both Podcast, host Lauren Lanzaretta sits down with Timothy Rodriguez, author of Conversion Therapy Dropout, for a raw, unfiltered conversation about surviving eight years of conversion therapy, working behind the scenes for some of the biggest evangelical megachurches (including Hillsong, Elevation Church, and Willow Creek), and reclaiming faith after religious trauma. Timothy shares: • What conversion therapy really looks like (it’s not what most people think) • Why conversion therapy doesn’t change sexuality—but does cause deep psychological harm • How churches promote “belonging” while quietly silencing LGBTQ people • The truth behind the “ex-gay” movement and why it fails • How shame, repression, and spiritual abuse nearly destroyed his life • Why LGBTQ Christians often feel closer to God after coming out, not farther away • Why conversion therapy is still happening today—and growingThis conversation also breaks down: • The role of megachurch culture in sustaining harmful theology • How conversion therapy has gone underground under “religious freedom” • Why trans and nonbinary youth are now the primary targets • What it means to be both LGBTQ and Christian without self-hatred ⚠️ Trigger warning: This episode discusses religious trauma, mental health crises, and conversion therapy practices. If you’re questioning your faith, your sexuality, or what you’ve been told about God—you are not alone. 📘 Get the LGBTQ Christian Healing & Resource Guide:https://www.laurenlanzaretta.com/youcanbeboth 📚 Learn more about Timothy Rodriguez & Conversion Therapy Dropout: https://amzn.to/45OiADa Instagram:…","meta_description":"Does conversion therapy work? What actually happens behind closed doors in Christian “ex-gay” programs—and why do people stay for years? In this episode o…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3559,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/you-can-be-both-7576307/episodes/does-conversion-therapy-work-a-survivor-tells-the-truth/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-can-be-both-7576307/does-conversion-therapy-work-a-survivor-tells-the-truth.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}