{"podcast":{"title":"X's and Joe's","slug":"x-s-and-joe-s-6715022","podcast_index_feed_id":6715022,"rss_url":"https://rss.art19.com/xs-and-joes","website_url":"https://art19.com/shows/xs-and-joes","image_url":"https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/9c/64/c6/96/9c64c696-d505-4684-b21d-b2003394fc0f/9d5001cd25f7ce8f59a565ee9317ae97eef05e29f5af21c6084fd4f8abafc8a4ebf2d3078ee333fdfb67d73bfa5e57c92d737ddcb427be9e14c3115365581d28.jpeg","author":"Back Home Network","episode_count":60,"summary":"X's and Joe's, part of the Back Home Network, is a podcast that lets you eavesdrop on an ongoing, 25-year conversation between two friends and Indiana University grads who have an unusual passion for exploring the formula for winning in today’s modern college basketball. Hosted by Bob Moats (cbobmoats) and Mike Wiemuth (iu-in-philly), this show examines trends in recruiting, metrics, strategy, and coaching -- with an emphasis on debunking myths and challenging popular assumptions. And while Bob and Mike's rooting interests may lie with the Hoosiers, this show takes an expansive view of the college basketball landscape beyond just Bloomington. In other words, it's a show for ALL serious college hoops fans who truly appreciate the nuances of the sport.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-21T10:19:42.402309+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/x-s-and-joe-s-6715022"},"episode":{"title":"[48] Bill Murphy Part 4 - Branch, the Splendid Splinter, and Early NIL at IU","slug":"48-bill-murphy-part-4-branch-the-splendid-splinter-and-early-nil-at-iu","published_at":"2026-01-01T17:30:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/x-s-and-joe-s-6715022/48-bill-murphy-part-4-branch-the-splendid-splinter-and-early-nil-at-iu","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/x-s-and-joe-s-6715022","url":"https://rss.art19.com/episodes/e28ceceb-0677-4de0-9938-b9b70deb0699.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","audio_url":"https://rss.art19.com/episodes/e28ceceb-0677-4de0-9938-b9b70deb0699.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","summary":"Bob Moats and Mike Wiemuth wrap up their conversation with IU historian Bill Murphy, exploring the Hurrying Hoosiers era, legendary shooters, early NIL deals, and the dramatic transition from Branch McCracken to Lou Watson that paved the way for Bob Knight. The Splendid Splinter Bill shares unforgettable stories about Jimmy Rayl's two 56-point performances, including how Rayl insisted he would've scored 80 against Michigan State if Branch hadn't pulled him with four minutes left—and how 17 of his makes would've been three-pointers. Mike recounts witnessing an elderly Rayl at a Larry Bird exhibition game, calibrating his first shot then draining seven straight from Steph Curry range, hitting nothing but net each time. Early NIL and Record-Breaking Rebounds Bill reveals a forgotten piece of IU history: Walt Bellamy was promised a car by a Bloomington auto dealer if he set the Big Ten rebounding record. During the final home game, Branch McCracken and Jimmy Rayl sat on the bench with a gum wrapper and golf pencil, tracking every rebound to make sure Bellamy earned his wheels. Bellamy's 33-rebound performance still stands as the Big Ten record. Watson's Rollercoaster Ride Lou Watson inherited disaster in 1965—just 120 points returning after seven seniors left—and finished tied for ninth (dead last) in his first year. But he engineered the first last-to-first turnaround in Big Ten history the very next season, winning the 1967 championship. Bill then reveals the shocking reason Watson's final team collapsed: two players stopped passing to each other because they were dating the same girl, derailing what should've been a championship run with one of IU's greatest recruiting classes. Branch's Final Stand When doctors told Branch a heart attack meant retirement, he shocked eve…","meta_description":"Bob Moats and Mike Wiemuth wrap up their conversation with IU historian Bill Murphy, exploring the Hurrying Hoosiers era, legendary shooters, early NIL de…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2493,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/x-s-and-joe-s-6715022/episodes/48-bill-murphy-part-4-branch-the-splendid-splinter-and-early-nil-at-iu/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/x-s-and-joe-s-6715022/48-bill-murphy-part-4-branch-the-splendid-splinter-and-early-nil-at-iu.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}