{"podcast":{"title":"X's and Joe's","slug":"x-s-and-joe-s-6715022","podcast_index_feed_id":6715022,"rss_url":"https://rss.art19.com/xs-and-joes","website_url":"https://art19.com/shows/xs-and-joes","image_url":"https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/9c/64/c6/96/9c64c696-d505-4684-b21d-b2003394fc0f/9d5001cd25f7ce8f59a565ee9317ae97eef05e29f5af21c6084fd4f8abafc8a4ebf2d3078ee333fdfb67d73bfa5e57c92d737ddcb427be9e14c3115365581d28.jpeg","author":"Back Home Network","episode_count":60,"summary":"X's and Joe's, part of the Back Home Network, is a podcast that lets you eavesdrop on an ongoing, 25-year conversation between two friends and Indiana University grads who have an unusual passion for exploring the formula for winning in today’s modern college basketball. Hosted by Bob Moats (cbobmoats) and Mike Wiemuth (iu-in-philly), this show examines trends in recruiting, metrics, strategy, and coaching -- with an emphasis on debunking myths and challenging popular assumptions. And while Bob and Mike's rooting interests may lie with the Hoosiers, this show takes an expansive view of the college basketball landscape beyond just Bloomington. In other words, it's a show for ALL serious college hoops fans who truly appreciate the nuances of the sport.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-21T10:19:42.402309+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/x-s-and-joe-s-6715022"},"episode":{"title":"[44] The Ohio River Rivalries with special guest Josh Burton","slug":"44-the-ohio-river-rivalries-with-special-guest-josh-burton","published_at":"2025-12-06T18:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/x-s-and-joe-s-6715022/44-the-ohio-river-rivalries-with-special-guest-josh-burton","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/x-s-and-joe-s-6715022","url":"https://rss.art19.com/episodes/d1ec4e33-fb12-4405-bee3-3a0d907a3801.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","audio_url":"https://rss.art19.com/episodes/d1ec4e33-fb12-4405-bee3-3a0d907a3801.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","summary":"Bob Moats, Mike Wiemuth, and special guest Josh Burton from Everything College Basketball reunite to break down the rekindled border wars between Indiana, Kentucky, and Louisville as the three programs meet over consecutive Saturdays in December. Growing Up in Basketball Country The guys open with personal stories about how geography and family shaped their allegiances in the heartland of college hoops. Josh Burton shares his journey from a Kentucky-loving kid playing College Slam on Sega Genesis while his IU-fan dad looked on, to becoming one of the voices of Everything College Basketball. Josh's dad from Kentucky roots, moved to Indiana, raised UK fans The \"ugly girlfriend\" Brian Evans comparisons at the Boys and Girls Club Geography matters: South of I-64 = Kentucky rival, North = Purdue rival Economic migration brought Kentucky fans north decades ago The Golden Age of the Rivalry A walk down memory lane to when these matchups defined college basketball in the Midwest, featuring 50-50 splits at the Hoosier Dome and Freedom Hall that felt more like college football atmosphere. The Dome and Freedom Hall rotating neutral sites with perfect 50-50 ticket splits Bob Knight's late entrances causing entire stadiums to erupt (only 2% could see him) Mike Davis's 2002 incident liquidating 35% of his chip stack in one moment Freedom Hall's designated smoking room and nightmare parking lot The 2012 Sweet Sixteen in Atlanta: IU-UK reunion on the way to UK's title The Modern Coaches: New Chapter, Same Synchronicity All three programs now feature modern, uptempo coaches running similar five-out systems after years of divergent philosophies. The synchronicity creates potential for recruiting battles and on-court drama not seen since the mid-eighties. Kenny Payne: Possibly the worst…","meta_description":"Bob Moats, Mike Wiemuth, and special guest Josh Burton from Everything College Basketball reunite to break down the rekindled border wars between Indiana,…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":7255,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/x-s-and-joe-s-6715022/episodes/44-the-ohio-river-rivalries-with-special-guest-josh-burton/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/x-s-and-joe-s-6715022/44-the-ohio-river-rivalries-with-special-guest-josh-burton.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}