{"podcast":{"title":"X's and Joe's","slug":"x-s-and-joe-s-6715022","podcast_index_feed_id":6715022,"rss_url":"https://rss.art19.com/xs-and-joes","website_url":"https://art19.com/shows/xs-and-joes","image_url":"https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/9c/64/c6/96/9c64c696-d505-4684-b21d-b2003394fc0f/9d5001cd25f7ce8f59a565ee9317ae97eef05e29f5af21c6084fd4f8abafc8a4ebf2d3078ee333fdfb67d73bfa5e57c92d737ddcb427be9e14c3115365581d28.jpeg","author":"Back Home Network","episode_count":60,"summary":"X's and Joe's, part of the Back Home Network, is a podcast that lets you eavesdrop on an ongoing, 25-year conversation between two friends and Indiana University grads who have an unusual passion for exploring the formula for winning in today’s modern college basketball. Hosted by Bob Moats (cbobmoats) and Mike Wiemuth (iu-in-philly), this show examines trends in recruiting, metrics, strategy, and coaching -- with an emphasis on debunking myths and challenging popular assumptions. And while Bob and Mike's rooting interests may lie with the Hoosiers, this show takes an expansive view of the college basketball landscape beyond just Bloomington. In other words, it's a show for ALL serious college hoops fans who truly appreciate the nuances of the sport.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-21T10:19:42.402309+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/x-s-and-joe-s-6715022"},"episode":{"title":"[38] Is IU Football For Real? Hoosier Surge + The North–South Culture War","slug":"38-is-iu-football-for-real-hoosier-surge-the-north-south-culture-war","published_at":"2025-08-29T05:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/x-s-and-joe-s-6715022/38-is-iu-football-for-real-hoosier-surge-the-north-south-culture-war","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/x-s-and-joe-s-6715022","url":"https://rss.art19.com/episodes/c5912afb-e3ca-4ae6-9daa-63053d19d477.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","audio_url":"https://rss.art19.com/episodes/c5912afb-e3ca-4ae6-9daa-63053d19d477.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","summary":"IU football just went from “pinch me” to “prove it.” Bob Moats and Mike Wiemuth sit down with Galen Clavio to unpack the Hoosiers’ rapid rise—how it happened, what it means, and how a long-suffering fanbase should handle success. Then we zoom out: the decades-old cultural tug-of-war between the North and South and how it fuels the Big Ten vs. SEC battle for the soul of college football. What you’ll hear “Was it real?”—reliving last season and why fans should savor this run, not fear it. How IU’s surge compressed the “honeymoon” timeline and turbocharged recruiting in Year 2. The North vs. South culture clash: narratives, talent pipelines, and why media/TV incentives shape the conversation. Chapters (approx.) 00:00 Cold open 11:30 “Was it real?” + savoring the moment 23:45 Recruiting & the accelerated timeline 49:50 Big Ten vs. SEC culture war 1:19:05 TV money, media narratives, and power dynamics About the show Hosted by Bob Moats and Mike Wiemuth, X’s & Joe’s blends data, history, and a little Hoosier heart. Today’s guest: Galen Clavio. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .","meta_description":"IU football just went from “pinch me” to “prove it.” Bob Moats and Mike Wiemuth sit down with Galen Clavio to unpack the Hoosiers’ rapid rise—how it happe…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":6173,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/x-s-and-joe-s-6715022/episodes/38-is-iu-football-for-real-hoosier-surge-the-north-south-culture-war/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/x-s-and-joe-s-6715022/38-is-iu-football-for-real-hoosier-surge-the-north-south-culture-war.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}