{"podcast":{"title":"Workplace Stories by RedThread Research","slug":"workplace-stories-by-redthread-research-3600959","podcast_index_feed_id":3600959,"rss_url":"https://www.spreaker.com/show/4800257/episodes/feed","website_url":"http://redthreadresearch.com/podcast","image_url":"https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/48f82915396d22a82e8e5b9b202f0df2.jpg","author":"Stacia Garr & Dani Johnson","episode_count":133,"summary":"Workplace Stories is a podcast for HR and people leaders who are tired of noise and need clarity that actually holds up. It is hosted by Stacia Garr and Dani Johnson of RedThread Research. Each episode features candid conversations with practitioners, thinkers, and executives who are navigating real decisions inside complex organizations. Not hypotheticals. Not vendor promises. Real tradeoffs, real experiments, and real lessons learned along the way. You’ll hear how leaders are making sense of skills, AI, organizational design, and culture when there’s no clear playbook and pressure to show progress is high. The focus is always the same: what’s actually working, what isn’t, and what leaders are doing next. Workplace Stories helps you make sense of complexity, build credibility with evidence, and move from ideas to action with more confidence. Want to be part of the conversation? Join our community for free and connect with others shaping the future of work. 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They might assume people will simply \"figure it out\" on the job or resort to one-size-fits-all training. If you've ever wondered why your learning investments don’t seem to translate into impact, it might be because you’re still guessing when it comes to skills. Today, you’ll hear how Johnson & Johnson’s tech organization stopped playing the guessing game. With clear processes to identify, assess, and verify skills, both digital and power skills, they’re not just hoping development happens; they’re engineering it. You'll learn how they use both talent leader insight and AI-driven inference to build a skills-based ecosystem that actually works, without overwhelming employees or managers. By the end of the conversation, it’s clear this isn’t about chasing trends. It’s about building a practical, scalable system that aligns employee growth with business needs and helps people know, with confidence, exactly what’s next in their development journey. You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in... (00:00) Intro. (02:32) Bas’s career path and transition into L&D. (05:08) Structure and priorities of J&J’s tech learning organization. (09:00) How J&J defines, identifies, and verifies critical skills. (17:34) Messaging, buy-in, and the cultural side of skill building. (23:47) How AI and tech are reshaping development and learning systems. Resources & People Mentioned https://fortune.com https://degreed.com Connect with Bas Debbink Connect with Bas Debbink on LinkedIn Connect With Red Thread Research Website: Red Thread Research On LinkedIn On Facebook On Twitter Subscribe to WORKPL…","meta_description":"Most organizations claim to care about employee development, but upon closer examination, their approach to skills is often vague, subjective, or downrigh…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2211,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/workplace-stories-by-redthread-research-3600959/episodes/stop-guessing-how-j-j-gets-precise-about-skills-w-bas-debbink/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/workplace-stories-by-redthread-research-3600959/stop-guessing-how-j-j-gets-precise-about-skills-w-bas-debbink.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}