{"podcast":{"title":"With Liberty and Justice for Some","slug":"with-liberty-and-justice-for-some-7203009","podcast_index_feed_id":7203009,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/ff00a8d4/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://pocan.house.gov","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/42682333/42682333-1739396296651-558aa36de7caa.jpg","author":"Rep. Mark Pocan","episode_count":71,"summary":"Representative Mark Pocan discusses the issues facing the American people.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-18T04:17:38.931228+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/with-liberty-and-justice-for-some-7203009"},"episode":{"title":"With Liberty and Justice for Some Ep. 65 – Just what is the 25th Amendment with Norman Ornstein","slug":"with-liberty-and-justice-for-some-ep-65-just-what-is-the-25th-amendment-with-norman-ornstein","published_at":"2026-05-06T18:16:24+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/with-liberty-and-justice-for-some-7203009/with-liberty-and-justice-for-some-ep-65-just-what-is-the-25th-amendment-with-norman-ornstein","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/with-liberty-and-justice-for-some-7203009","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/rep-mark-pocan/episodes/With-Liberty-and-Justice-for-Some-Ep--65--Just-what-is-the-25th-Amendment-with-Norman-Ornstein-e3j03tt","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/ff00a8d4/podcast/play/119590269/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-6%2F423619693-44100-2-6c58ec338331f.mp3","summary":"As we watch Trump’s increasingly erratic behavior, more and more of us are calling on his cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment. But what does that really mean? On this week’s episode of With Liberty and Justice for Some, we answer that question and more with one of our nation’s top political scientists, Norman Ornstein.","meta_description":"As we watch Trump’s increasingly erratic behavior, more and more of us are calling on his cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment. But what does that really…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2357,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/with-liberty-and-justice-for-some-7203009/episodes/with-liberty-and-justice-for-some-ep-65-just-what-is-the-25th-amendment-with-norman-ornstein/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/with-liberty-and-justice-for-some-7203009/with-liberty-and-justice-for-some-ep-65-just-what-is-the-25th-amendment-with-norman-ornstein.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}