{"podcast":{"title":"WILL - Women Interested in Leaving Law","slug":"will-women-interested-in-leaving-law-7109219","podcast_index_feed_id":7109219,"rss_url":"https://api.riverside.fm/hosting/om9PjaVX.rss","website_url":"https://womeninterestedinleavinglawpod.podbean.com","image_url":"https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/036f5a28-39c8-4ba9-9151-38d7461e2d2e/logos/48423610-834a-47f0-a189-14f5291ffb60.jpeg","author":"WILL - Women Interested in Leaving Law","episode_count":43,"summary":"The WILL Podcast - For Women Lawyers Searching for Freedom, Flexibility and Fulfilment. Are you tired of having to “always be available,” the anxiety, and a nagging sense that something is missing? The WILL Podcast offers an honest exploration for how to find relief, meaning and work that allows you to enjoy your life, (without throwing away all you’ve invested). This podcast is for any woman lawyer who has ever questioned if they want to stay in law or not. Here you’ll find a window into how others have dealt with the money, identity and figured out what else they could do (in law or out). Each episode is a journey into the lives of women lawyers who got fed up with the status quo. You’ll hear about persistent doubt, piles of debt, and physical and mental depletion. Our guests reveal how they navigated the expectations of workplace cultures and inner critics that keep them isolated and wondering “what’s wrong with me.” You’ll hear conversations not being shared beyond a whisper in the halls of big law. You’ll discover: * Inspirational stories of lawyers who’ve redefined success on their own terms * Strategies to overcome the common career pitfalls women lawyers get stuck in * Ide…","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/will-women-interested-in-leaving-law-7109219"},"episode":{"title":"GC to Travel Advisor: Kathleen Builds a Travel Business She Loves","slug":"gc-to-travel-advisor-kathleen-builds-a-travel-business-she-loves","published_at":"2026-02-13T06:45:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/will-women-interested-in-leaving-law-7109219/gc-to-travel-advisor-kathleen-builds-a-travel-business-she-loves","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/will-women-interested-in-leaving-law-7109219","url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/0ffbee763e9a68e51ffc2a4afc36cb2ce23db90f768b599f2710f96e258db84b/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJhMTE3YzI3YS05MmE5LTRjZTktYTU0OC1lOWZjNzQzM2U0Y2IiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIwMzZmNWEyOC0zOWM4LTRiYTktOTE1MS0zOGQ3NDYxZTJkMmUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2NjA1NGQ0ZmJkMDQ4NTRhMmQxZTkwNDIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk4ZTBhMjk4ZDQyZTIzMmFkYTQ3MjdmL2VsZW5hLWRldXRzY2hzLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTItMTJfXzE4LTEzLTEzLm1wMyJ9.mp3","audio_url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/0ffbee763e9a68e51ffc2a4afc36cb2ce23db90f768b599f2710f96e258db84b/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJhMTE3YzI3YS05MmE5LTRjZTktYTU0OC1lOWZjNzQzM2U0Y2IiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIwMzZmNWEyOC0zOWM4LTRiYTktOTE1MS0zOGQ3NDYxZTJkMmUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2NjA1NGQ0ZmJkMDQ4NTRhMmQxZTkwNDIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk4ZTBhMjk4ZDQyZTIzMmFkYTQ3MjdmL2VsZW5hLWRldXRzY2hzLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTItMTJfXzE4LTEzLTEzLm1wMyJ9.mp3","summary":"Imagine you’ve gone from big law to in-house and become a GC. Yet, you feel empty. You’ve been a “success” and yet you long for more. Finally, you allow yourself to explore what else you can do and your passion for travel rises to the top. At first you don’t believe it’s possible to make money doing that, but you take one small step at a time to explore. (Travel is a multi-billion dollar industry after all!) In this episode of the WILL Podcast, Kathleen Fong shares how WILL guided her transformative journey to become a travel advisor. What helped her transition from GC to entrepreneur. How her legal skills have been instrumental in her new role. How she couldn’t have imagined it was possible to meet her financial goals for the year, but she surpassed them in October! Kathleen delights in the joy of helping clients create unforgettable travel experiences. For her the WILL Community and support was instrumental in pursuing her dreams. About Kathleen Kathleen Fong has been a practicing attorney for more than 20 years - in Big Law and in-house General Counsel and Chief Legal Officer roles from San Francisco to New York. She understands firsthand the pressures of a demanding legal career and the constant pull of competing priorities. After stepping away from full-time legal practice, she began exploring what a fulfilling next chapter could look like. Joining WILL helped her find purpose and joy through her lifelong passion for travel. She's now the founder of a boutique travel advisory grounded in the skills she honed as a lawyer: meticulous planning, strategic thinking, and creative problem-solving. Today, she specializes in helping busy professionals, especially women lawyers including some WILL members, take thoughtfully curated, effortless, and exceptional trips, withou…","meta_description":"Imagine you’ve gone from big law to in-house and become a GC. Yet, you feel empty. 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