{"podcast":{"title":"WILL - Women Interested in Leaving Law","slug":"will-women-interested-in-leaving-law-7109219","podcast_index_feed_id":7109219,"rss_url":"https://api.riverside.fm/hosting/om9PjaVX.rss","website_url":"https://womeninterestedinleavinglawpod.podbean.com","image_url":"https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/036f5a28-39c8-4ba9-9151-38d7461e2d2e/logos/48423610-834a-47f0-a189-14f5291ffb60.jpeg","author":"WILL - Women Interested in Leaving Law","episode_count":43,"summary":"The WILL Podcast - For Women Lawyers Searching for Freedom, Flexibility and Fulfilment. Are you tired of having to “always be available,” the anxiety, and a nagging sense that something is missing? The WILL Podcast offers an honest exploration for how to find relief, meaning and work that allows you to enjoy your life, (without throwing away all you’ve invested). This podcast is for any woman lawyer who has ever questioned if they want to stay in law or not. Here you’ll find a window into how others have dealt with the money, identity and figured out what else they could do (in law or out). Each episode is a journey into the lives of women lawyers who got fed up with the status quo. You’ll hear about persistent doubt, piles of debt, and physical and mental depletion. Our guests reveal how they navigated the expectations of workplace cultures and inner critics that keep them isolated and wondering “what’s wrong with me.” You’ll hear conversations not being shared beyond a whisper in the halls of big law. You’ll discover: * Inspirational stories of lawyers who’ve redefined success on their own terms * Strategies to overcome the common career pitfalls women lawyers get stuck in * Ide…","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/will-women-interested-in-leaving-law-7109219"},"episode":{"title":"Can Finding the “Right Firm” Change Everything? 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Do you wonder whether the problem is the law itself , or whether you’re in the right environment? Do you feel anxious, wondering whether you will ever feel truly satisfied in your career? You’re far from alone. In this episode, I’m joined by Jennifer Gillman; a former practicing attorney, turned legal matchmaker, and founder of Gillman Strategic Group. Jennifer helps rainmakers find the right law firm fit and re-claim fulfillment without leaving the profession. She shares her own unexpected transition out of practice and offers a candid look at what actually creates autonomy, leverage, and satisfaction for lawyers, especially women. Listen in and learn: Why success and fulfillment are not the same. How building relationships and clients creates real power, flexibility, and boundaries. Why women consistently undervalue themselves and how that mindset limits compensation and choice. 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