{"podcast":{"title":"What is The Future for Cities?","slug":"what-is-the-future-for-cities-4307818","podcast_index_feed_id":4307818,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/4e573598/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://wt4cities.com","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_nologo/13043382/13043382-1631428062932-6643c906854b9.jpg","author":"Fanni Melles","episode_count":679,"summary":"WTF for Cities? is a platform to introduce and connect people who are actively and consciously working on the future of cities and to introduce research about the future of cities.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-08T10:17:19.777257+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/what-is-the-future-for-cities-4307818"},"episode":{"title":"432I_Dr Nathalie Mezza-Garcia, digital and water-based jurisdiction architect","slug":"432i-dr-nathalie-mezza-garcia-digital-and-water-based-jurisdiction-architect","published_at":"2026-05-27T23:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/what-is-the-future-for-cities-4307818/432i-dr-nathalie-mezza-garcia-digital-and-water-based-jurisdiction-architect","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/what-is-the-future-for-cities-4307818","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fanni-melles/episodes/432I_Dr-Nathalie-Mezza-Garcia--digital-and-water-based-jurisdiction-architect-e3j513k","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/4e573598/podcast/play/119751220/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-10%2F423834447-44100-2-9be622550837c.mp3","summary":""We don't have to have binary answers ... and that is something that characterises the future of cities. We will have what I like to call a heterarchy of things." Are you interested in floating cities? What do you think about startup societies as an innovative form of governance? How can we create heterarchy for better urban futures? Interview with Dr Nathalie Mezza-Garcia, digital and water-based jurisdiction architect. We will talk about her vision for the future of cities, floating cities, legal and environmental aspects, startup societies, digital sovereignty, and many more. Nathalie Mezza-Garcia specializes in the development and management of startup societies and floating development projects. She holds a PhD on the intersection of Special Economic Zones, sustainable aquatecture, and blockchain in indigenous communities. With over eight years of experience, she has worked in academic research, consultancy, and business development. She served as COO of Catawba Digital Economic Zone in the USA and founded Seaphia, a consultancy focused on zones and water-based projects. Her work has appeared in Forbes, CNBC, and ABC. Find out more about Nathalie through these links: Nathalie Mezza-Garcia on LinkedIn @floating_sez as Nathalie Mezza-Garcia on X Seaphia website Seaphia on LinkedIn @SeaphiaGroup as Seaphia on X @seaphiagroup as Seaphia on Instagram Startup Societies Foundation website Startup Societies Foundation on LinkedIn Startup Societies Foundation on Youtube @StartSocieties as Startup Societies Foundation on X @startupsocieties as Startup Societies Foundation on Instagram Connected episodes you might be interested in: No.294 - Interview with Erick A. Brimen about Prospera Honduras No.384 - Interview with Rutger de Graaf about floating cities No.386 -…","meta_description":"\"We don't have to have binary answers ... and that is something that characterises the future of cities. We will have what I like to call a heterarch…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2558,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/what-is-the-future-for-cities-4307818/episodes/432i-dr-nathalie-mezza-garcia-digital-and-water-based-jurisdiction-architect/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/what-is-the-future-for-cities-4307818/432i-dr-nathalie-mezza-garcia-digital-and-water-based-jurisdiction-architect.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}