{"podcast":{"title":"Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy","slug":"ways-to-change-the-world-with-krishnan-guru-murthy-730381","podcast_index_feed_id":730381,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/1057629b4/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://www.channel4.com/news/ways-to-change-the-world","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/43765973/e6ae653cd5c01c2e.jpg","author":"Channel 4 News","episode_count":141,"summary":"How can you change the world? Join Krishnan Guru-Murthy and his guest of the week as they explore the big ideas influencing how we think, act and live.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-19T18:18:53.818787+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/ways-to-change-the-world-with-krishnan-guru-murthy-730381"},"episode":{"title":"Ben & Jerry’s co-founder takes on Unilever over Gaza and free speech","slug":"ben-jerry-s-co-founder-takes-on-unilever-over-gaza-and-free-speech","published_at":"2025-11-21T06:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/ways-to-change-the-world-with-krishnan-guru-murthy-730381/ben-jerry-s-co-founder-takes-on-unilever-over-gaza-and-free-speech","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/ways-to-change-the-world-with-krishnan-guru-murthy-730381","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/waystochangetheworld/episodes/Ben--Jerrys-co-founder-takes-on-Unilever-over-Gaza-and-free-speech-e3b7vhv","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/1057629b4/podcast/play/111459327/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-10-20%2F412842123-44100-2-120ebad76db25.mp3","summary":"Ben Cohen, co-founder of Ben & Jerry’s, is calling on Unilever to “free” the ice cream brand after years of clashes over its social mission and stance on issues like Gaza. In this episode of Ways to Change the World, Ben tells Krishnan Guru-Murthy why he believes business has become the strongest force in society - and why it must care about more than profit. Unilever maintains that it’s working to create “a fairer, more socially inclusive world”.","meta_description":"Ben Cohen, co-founder of Ben & Jerry’s, is calling on Unilever to “free” the ice cream brand after years of clashes over its social mission and stance…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2152,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/ways-to-change-the-world-with-krishnan-guru-murthy-730381/episodes/ben-jerry-s-co-founder-takes-on-unilever-over-gaza-and-free-speech/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/ways-to-change-the-world-with-krishnan-guru-murthy-730381/ben-jerry-s-co-founder-takes-on-unilever-over-gaza-and-free-speech.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}