{"podcast":{"title":"Unsupervised Learning","slug":"unsupervised-learning","podcast_index_feed_id":779530,"rss_url":"https://www.omnycontent.com/d/playlist/070af456-729b-4a0f-9c09-a6c100397b59/3b159371-276d-429e-ae86-a6c1003b01c4/7b61d4e1-bd3d-4d3f-97c2-a6c1003b01c9/podcast.rss","website_url":"https://danielmiessler.com/podcast/","image_url":"https://www.omnycontent.com/d/playlist/070af456-729b-4a0f-9c09-a6c100397b59/3b159371-276d-429e-ae86-a6c1003b01c4/7b61d4e1-bd3d-4d3f-97c2-a6c1003b01c9/image.jpg?t=1622036215&size=Large","author":"Daniel Miessler","episode_count":541,"summary":"Unsupervised Learning is about ideas and trends in Cybersecurity, National Security, AI, Technology, and Culture—and how best to upgrade ourselves to be ready for what's coming.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/unsupervised-learning"},"episode":{"title":"A Conversation with Bar-El Tayouri from Mend.io","slug":"a-conversation-with-bar-el-tayouri-from-mend-io","published_at":"2025-05-06T06:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/unsupervised-learning/a-conversation-with-bar-el-tayouri-from-mend-io","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/unsupervised-learning","url":"https://omny.fm/shows/unsupervised-learning/a-conversation-with-bar-el-tayouri-from-mend-io","audio_url":"https://mgln.ai/e/p5837/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/070af456-729b-4a0f-9c09-a6c100397b59/3b159371-276d-429e-ae86-a6c1003b01c4/8da7809c-e181-4e59-830b-b2d40166db65/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=7b61d4e1-bd3d-4d3f-97c2-a6c1003b01c9","summary":"➡ Get full visibility, risk insights, red teaming, and governance for your AI models, AI agents, RAGs, and more&mdash;so you can securely deploy AI powered applications with&nbsp; ul.live/mend In this episode, I speak with Bar-El Tayouri, Head of AI Security at Mend.io , about the rapidly evolving landscape of application and AI security&mdash;especially as multi-agent systems and fuzzy interfaces redefine the attack surface. We talk about: &bull; Modern AppSec Meets AI Agents How traditional AppSec falls short when it comes to AI-era components like agents, MCP servers, system prompts, and model artifacts&mdash;and why security now depends on mapping, monitoring, and understanding this entire stack. &bull;&nbsp; Threat Discovery, Simulation, and Mitigation How Mend&rsquo;s AI security suite identifies unknown AI usage across an org, simulates dynamic attacks (like prompt injection via PDFs), and provides developers with precise, in-code guidance to reduce risk without slowing innovation. &bull;&nbsp; Why We&rsquo;re Rethinking Identity, Risk, and Governance Why securing AI systems isn&rsquo;t just about new threats&mdash;it&rsquo;s about re-implementing old lessons: identity access, separation of duties, and system modeling. And why every CISO needs to integrate security into the dev workflow instead of relying on blunt-force blocking. Subscribe to the newsletter at: https://danielmiessler.com/subscribe Join the UL community at: https://danielmiessler.com/upgrade Follow on X: https://x.com/danielmiessler Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielmiessler Chapters: 00:00 - From Game Hacking to AI Security: Barel&rsquo;s Tech Journey 03:51 - Why Application Security Is Still the Most Exciting Challenge 04:39 - The Real AppSec Bottleneck: Prioritization, Not…","meta_description":"➡ Get full visibility, risk insights, red teaming, and governance for your AI models, AI agents, RAGs, and more—so you can securely deploy AI powere…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2753,"processing_state":"failed","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/unsupervised-learning/episodes/a-conversation-with-bar-el-tayouri-from-mend-io/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/unsupervised-learning/a-conversation-with-bar-el-tayouri-from-mend-io.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}