{"podcast":{"title":"Unlocking Aliveness in Leadership","slug":"unlocking-aliveness-in-leadership-7103003","podcast_index_feed_id":7103003,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/6722652377f0e7cbfb9d670a","website_url":"https://shows.acast.com/unlocking-aliveness-in-leadership","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/cover/1730307216782-235142a1-d05b-486d-8749-774747ee48c3.jpeg","author":"Unlocking Conversations","episode_count":36,"summary":"Andy Rogers and Frances Armes interview modern everyday leaders about where they have come from, what makes them tick and what top tips they have to pass on to aspiring leaders who are listening Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-03T16:23:02.179471+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/unlocking-aliveness-in-leadership-7103003"},"episode":{"title":"Season 2: Episode 2 Frances and Andy in conversation with Tony Underwood Chief Care Enforcer","slug":"season-2-episode-2-frances-and-andy-in-conversation-with-tony-underwood-chief-care-enforcer","published_at":"2025-03-07T08:30:43+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/unlocking-aliveness-in-leadership-7103003/season-2-episode-2-frances-and-andy-in-conversation-with-tony-underwood-chief-care-enforcer","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/unlocking-aliveness-in-leadership-7103003","url":"https://unlockingconversations.com/podcasts/2","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/6722652377f0e7cbfb9d670a/e/67caaeb377bd291124c4d7fa/media.mp3","summary":"Tony has had a fantastic career. He has pivoted from the heights of playing international rugby for England as well as the British and Irish Lions, before pursuing a 20-year career as a Pilot, culminating as Captain on the Airbus A380. He now uses the knowledge gleaned along the way to act as a Chief Care Enforcer , working with organisations and teams. He assists them in driving towards elite performance , encompassing both internal and external factors. Tony defines leadership as providing an environment in which others can be the best that they can possibly be . His guiding principle is to believe that great leaders achieve this status through the provision of a deep level of care to individuals . His philosophy opposes that of leaders who see individuals as widgets, present only to provide a resource in the achievement of the task. His perspective, built uniquely from direct experience of elite performance both on the rugby field as well as in the cockpit, enables him to share his message. He observed that those leaders who achieved the best level of care were also those responsible for the best performance outcomes. With this in mind, Tony likes to change the word performance to flourish . After all, isn’t this what we want for our people, teams and organisations ? This approach does not mean care without challenge (a soft approach). He emphasises that via the provision of great levels of care, you can provide challenge. Such focus shifts the dial between a you verses me mentality to an us verses the challenge team perspective. Purpose for Tony is now all about answering his need to develop what he sees as important in teams and organisations by bringing this message. He is extremely clear that the g oal is not about striving for a destination, but being on the jo…","meta_description":"Tony has had a fantastic career. He has pivoted from the heights of playing international rugby for England as well as the British and Irish Lions, before…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2568,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/unlocking-aliveness-in-leadership-7103003/episodes/season-2-episode-2-frances-and-andy-in-conversation-with-tony-underwood-chief-care-enforcer/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/unlocking-aliveness-in-leadership-7103003/season-2-episode-2-frances-and-andy-in-conversation-with-tony-underwood-chief-care-enforcer.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}