{"podcast":{"title":"Unconventional Leaders","slug":"unconventional-leaders-6674813","podcast_index_feed_id":6674813,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/unconventional-leaders/","website_url":"https://www.heatherparady.com/podcast","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/4985ab13-1356-458e-8f20-820d01424b75/Unconventional-Leaders.png","author":"Heather Parady","episode_count":177,"summary":"If you feel like the misfit, the one who thinks differently, or the one who never quite fit the mold, this show is here to help you take the parts of your story you once felt unsure about and turn them into your greatest advantage.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-28T22:20:50.336383+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/unconventional-leaders-6674813"},"episode":{"title":"Attention vs Impact | Stone Stafford","slug":"attention-vs-impact-stone-stafford","published_at":"2026-06-18T11:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/unconventional-leaders-6674813/attention-vs-impact-stone-stafford","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/unconventional-leaders-6674813","url":"https://www.heatherparady.com/podcast","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/1eda1f15-6182-4316-8309-74870894a914.mp3","summary":"Stone Stafford spent more than two decades in the music industry as an artist, songwriter, producer, and trusted advisor to creators with big dreams and even bigger ambitions. But what drew me to Stone’s work wasn't his résumé…it was his philosophy of \"quietly taking over.\" In this conversation, we explore the tension between impact and attention, why meaningful work often requires stepping away from the noise, and what it looks like to build something that truly matters without chasing the spotlight. WATCH EPISODES ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/heatherparady TOPICS FROM THIS EPISODE: Building quietly: Why you don't need to announce every move to make a meaningful impact Trending up vs. going deep: How creators can choose depth over dopamine without losing their audience Value over volume: Why a smaller, more engaged audience creates deeper impact CONNECT WITH STONE STAFFORD: Website: https://www.stonestafford.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stoneoo7/ CONNECT WITH HEATHER: Follow Heather on IG: https://www.instagram.com/heatherparady/ Access Full Show Notes Here: https://www.heatherparady.com/blog/171 Mentioned in this episode: Empowered Podcasting Grab your ticket here: https://empoweredpodcasting.com/check-out?am_id=heather444 Use code: EPC20 **“This is an affiliate link, which means. I earn a commission when you purchase through it**","meta_description":"Stone Stafford spent more than two decades in the music industry as an artist, songwriter, producer, and trusted advisor to creators with big dreams and e…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2574,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/unconventional-leaders-6674813/episodes/attention-vs-impact-stone-stafford/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/unconventional-leaders-6674813/attention-vs-impact-stone-stafford.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}