{"podcast":{"title":"Typology","slug":"typology-57896","podcast_index_feed_id":57896,"rss_url":"https://typology.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"http://www.typologypodcast.com","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/1/0/5/2/1052d9464965da27/typology_artwork.jpg","author":"Ian Morgan Cron","episode_count":465,"summary":"Who are we? Why do we act, think and feel the way we do? How can we become our best, most authentic selves? Welcome to Typology, a podcast that explores the mystery of the human personality and how we can use the Enneagram typing system as a tool to become our best, most authentic selves. Hosted by author, speaker and counselor, Ian Morgan Cron, Typology features interviews with thought leaders from every sphere of life, including renowned Enneagram authors and teachers, psychologists, theologians, artists, business leaders, neuroscientists, philosophers, and more. In other words, we'll be talking with people who are trying to become the best version of themselves in the world.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-03T06:18:11.543610+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/typology-57896"},"episode":{"title":"The Defender's Way: How Enneagram Eights Can Build Cultures of Care Without Losing Power\"","slug":"the-defender-s-way-how-enneagram-eights-can-build-cultures-of-care-without-losing-power","published_at":"2026-01-30T18:06:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/typology-57896/the-defender-s-way-how-enneagram-eights-can-build-cultures-of-care-without-losing-power","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/typology-57896","url":"https://typology.libsyn.com/the-defenders-way-how-enneagram-eights-can-build-cultures-of-care-without-losing-power","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/pscrb.fm/rss/p/clrtpod.com/m/mgln.ai/e/35/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/typology/S09-031_Dan_Simons_without_ads.mp3?dest-id=528815","summary":"What happens when Enneagram Eight energy grows up, softens its edges, and learns to lead with both strength and soul? In this episode of Typology, Ian Morgan Cron sits down with restaurateur, entrepreneur, and conscious capitalism advocate Dan Simons, co-owner of Founding Farmers, for a wide-ranging, deeply human conversation about power, protection, and what it really means to build a culture of care. Dan is brand-new to the Enneagram—and quickly discovers he's an Eight with a strong Nine wing, a compelling combination that blends moral clarity with empathy, decisiveness with nuance, and fire with calm. Together, Ian and Dan explore how Eights aren't just challengers—they're often defenders: leaders shaped by early experiences of injustice who instinctively stand up for the vulnerable. Along the way, they talk candidly about: Why anger can be a tool rather than a liability when it's consciously harnessed How leadership failures are often listening failures (and the three most powerful words a leader can say) How putting emotional well-being on equal footing with profit actually increases performance, retention, and long-term value What a healthy workplace should feel like when you walk through the door (hint: think Labrador retriever, not shark tank) This is a masterclass in evolved leadership and a hopeful vision of capitalism done with conscience. If you're a leader, an Enneagram Eight, or someone longing for work cultures that don't crush the human spirit, this conversation will leave you both challenged and encouraged—in the best possible way. Listen in and pull up a chair. There's a seat for you at this table. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- About Dan Simons Dan Simons is regarded as a leading voice in mission-driven bu…","meta_description":"What happens when Enneagram Eight energy grows up, softens its edges, and learns to lead with both strength and soul? In this episode of Typology, Ian Mor…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3594,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/typology-57896/episodes/the-defender-s-way-how-enneagram-eights-can-build-cultures-of-care-without-losing-power/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/typology-57896/the-defender-s-way-how-enneagram-eights-can-build-cultures-of-care-without-losing-power.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}