{"podcast":{"title":"Typology","slug":"typology-57896","podcast_index_feed_id":57896,"rss_url":"https://typology.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"http://www.typologypodcast.com","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/1/0/5/2/1052d9464965da27/typology_artwork.jpg","author":"Ian Morgan Cron","episode_count":465,"summary":"Who are we? Why do we act, think and feel the way we do? How can we become our best, most authentic selves? Welcome to Typology, a podcast that explores the mystery of the human personality and how we can use the Enneagram typing system as a tool to become our best, most authentic selves. Hosted by author, speaker and counselor, Ian Morgan Cron, Typology features interviews with thought leaders from every sphere of life, including renowned Enneagram authors and teachers, psychologists, theologians, artists, business leaders, neuroscientists, philosophers, and more. In other words, we'll be talking with people who are trying to become the best version of themselves in the world.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-03T06:18:11.543610+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/typology-57896"},"episode":{"title":"Fitting In vs. Belonging: What Enneagram Nines (and the Rest of Us) Get Wrong About Connection, with Brian Boecker","slug":"fitting-in-vs-belonging-what-enneagram-nines-and-the-rest-of-us-get-wrong-about-connection-with-brian-boecker","published_at":"2026-05-07T17:27:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/typology-57896/fitting-in-vs-belonging-what-enneagram-nines-and-the-rest-of-us-get-wrong-about-connection-with-brian-boecker","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/typology-57896","url":"https://typology.libsyn.com/fitting-in-vs-belonging-what-enneagram-nines-and-the-rest-of-us-get-wrong-about-connection-with-brian-boecker","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/pscrb.fm/rss/p/clrtpod.com/m/mgln.ai/e/35/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/typology/S09-044_Brian_Boecker_with_ads.mp3?dest-id=528815","summary":"Every once in a while, a conversation comes along that makes you pull out your earbuds and stare into the middle distance. This is one of those. My guest today didn't come to promote a book or launch a course. He's here because he's a good friend with hard-won wisdom — and the rare ability to articulate what's actually going on inside . Meet Brian Boecker, therapist at Restoring the Soul in Denver, Colorado, and an Enneagram Nine who has spent years doing the slow, unglamorous, profoundly important work of finding himself. We go deep on what it really means to belong versus simply fit in, why desire is so terrifying to name out loud, and how anger — when you stop running from it — turns out to be something closer to a life force than a liability. Brian is disarmingly honest about the ways he's learned to disappear, the slow work of becoming solid, and what it looks like to finally walk through the door you've been standing in front of your whole life. Whether you're a Nine or you love one, this conversation will give you a richer, more compassionate picture of what's actually going on beneath that calm surface.","meta_description":"Every once in a while, a conversation comes along that makes you pull out your earbuds and stare into the middle distance. This is one of those. My guest…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2756,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/typology-57896/episodes/fitting-in-vs-belonging-what-enneagram-nines-and-the-rest-of-us-get-wrong-about-connection-with-brian-boecker/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/typology-57896/fitting-in-vs-belonging-what-enneagram-nines-and-the-rest-of-us-get-wrong-about-connection-with-brian-boecker.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}