{"podcast":{"title":"Trust & Influence in B2B","slug":"trust-influence-in-b2b-7231194","podcast_index_feed_id":7231194,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/trust-influence-in-b2b/","website_url":"https://www.joelharrisonb2b.com/","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/5233bd2b-a9ac-4f38-96dd-89653f323389/Trust-InfluenceB2B-NewLook-v2-Generic-Asset.jpg","author":"Joel Harrison","episode_count":62,"summary":"I’m Joel Harrison, founder of B2B Marketing.net (formerly B2B Marketing magazine) Propolis and the B2B Marketing Awards. It’s been my mission for the past 21 years to recognise, celebrate and evangelise for the amazing profession that is B2B marketing, which has evolved beyond that recognition in that time. In this podcast, I’ll be exploring what I believe is the biggest challenge facing B2B marketers today: Trust. Buyers have always been cynical, hard to reach and even harder to convince, and increasingly expect to be self-directed in their research. In other words, they only want to engage with you on their terms. As if that wasn't bad enough, media and content channels are fragmented whilst AI is opening the floodgates to a tidalwave of content of questionable quality and veracity. It all adds up to a crisis of trust in B2B. In this podcast, I'll be interviewing innovative and inspirational marketers in the front line of addressing this challenge, providing deep insights into the context of this challenge, exploring new insights about its implications and looking at real world solutions and success stories. I’ll be exploring this topic from every relevant angle and perspective,…","last_synced_at":"2026-06-09T18:18:34.168449+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/trust-influence-in-b2b-7231194"},"episode":{"title":"Experiences, relationships and craftsmanship | Jon Miller (Marketo founder) on building trust in the age of AI slop","slug":"experiences-relationships-and-craftsmanship-jon-miller-marketo-founder-on-building-trust-in-the-age-of-ai-slop","published_at":"2026-01-27T11:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/trust-influence-in-b2b-7231194/experiences-relationships-and-craftsmanship-jon-miller-marketo-founder-on-building-trust-in-the-age-of-ai-slop","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/trust-influence-in-b2b-7231194","url":"https://joelharrison1.wpenginepowered.com/experiences-relationships-and-craftsmanship-jon-miller-marketo-founder-on-building-trust-in-the-age-of-ai-slop","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/dd987d71-534f-44f5-903c-829aa908d252.mp3","summary":"In this episode of Trust and Influence in B2B Marketing, Joel Harrison sits down with Jon Miller, co-founder of Marketo and Engagio, and one of the most influential figures in modern B2B marketing. Jon literally helped create the demand generation playbook that defined an entire era of marketing automation—and now, he's here to explain why that same playbook might be fundamentally broken. What happens when the very systems you helped build no longer reflect how buyers actually make decisions? ➡️ Jon brings a rare combination of technical rigor (he studied physics before pivoting to marketing) and decades of hands-on experience building category-defining companies. He doesn't just critique the old model—he unpacks why MQLs, linear funnels, and attribution models were always a bit simplistic, and why they've become completely disconnected from today's complex, non-linear buying reality. This conversation digs into the chaos theory of B2B buying, the rising importance of brand over demand, and why trust has become the most critical currency in an era of AI-generated content overload. Jon also reveals what he believes CMOs need to do differently to survive the next decade, why marketing platforms built for the old playbook are now limiting progress, and what he's building next to solve these challenges. If you've ever felt like your marketing metrics don't tell the full story, or wondered why demand gen tactics that used to work suddenly don't, this episode will give you clarity. Jon talks openly about the internal trust crisis facing CMOs, the political coalition-building skills that tomorrow's marketing leaders will need, and why the future of B2B marketing will be defined by experiences, relationships, and craftsmanship—not just campaigns and conversions. 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