{"podcast":{"title":"Travis Makes Money","slug":"travis-makes-money-756579","podcast_index_feed_id":756579,"rss_url":"https://rss.introcast.io/1268488944/feeds.megaphone.fm/TNM3316229403","website_url":"https://redcircle.com/shows/travismakesmoney","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/732930f6-0f09-11f0-bbe7-bbcf8c69a04e/image/fec660ea20bc3292f4fcdd0e088d989e.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Travis Chappell","episode_count":1753,"summary":"You can't save your way to your dream life anymore. The truth is, you’re gonna need to learn to make more money. The Travis Makes Money Podcast is not your typical personal finance show. Rather than shaming you for buying a Starbucks coffee or pressuring you to become a billionaire, we focus on empowering you to make more money so you can enjoy life today while preparing for your future. You don’t have to cut back so much that you miss out on the present, and you don’t need to become the next Jeff Bezos either. Hosted by veteran podcaster Travis Chappell, each daily episode features interviews with regular people just like you – yes, you – who have learned how to make more money in unique and unconventional ways. From turning side hustles into an extra six figures to building massive business empires, these conversations dive into the mindset shifts, hard-earned lessons, and simple strategies that helped these individuals succeed. With over 1,000 podcast episodes under his belt, Travis has developed a unique ability to pull out inspiring stories and practical advice you can apply to your own financial journey that you just won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you’re looking for strat…","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/travis-makes-money-756579"},"episode":{"title":"INTERVIEW | Make Money Building an Audience and Surviving the Attention Economy with Jo Piazza","slug":"interview-make-money-building-an-audience-and-surviving-the-attention-economy-with-jo-piazza","published_at":"2026-05-10T08:15:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/travis-makes-money-756579/interview-make-money-building-an-audience-and-surviving-the-attention-economy-with-jo-piazza","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/travis-makes-money-756579","url":"https://prefix.up.audio/s/pdrl.fm/d318d2/mgln.ai/e/211/traffic.megaphone.fm/TNM5481576704.mp3?updated=1778189769","audio_url":"https://prefix.up.audio/s/pdrl.fm/d318d2/mgln.ai/e/211/traffic.megaphone.fm/TNM5481576704.mp3?updated=1778189769","summary":"Bestselling author, journalist, and podcast creator Jo Piazza joins Travis to break down the realities of building a career as a modern writer. From working gossip columns in New York City to publishing bestselling novels, launching hit podcasts, and navigating today’s AI-driven content landscape, Jo shares the unfiltered truth about storytelling, publishing, audience building, and why creators need to think like entrepreneurs. With books published in multiple languages and millions of podcast downloads, Jo brings a candid, funny, and deeply practical perspective on making a living through creativity. On this episode we talk about: How Jo broke into journalism and built a writing career during a collapsing media industry Why mentorship and hard work still matter in creative careers The rise of self-publishing, Substack, and creator-owned audiences How AI-generated content is impacting books, publishing, and attention spans The business realities behind book deals, podcasts, and film adaptations Top 3 Takeaways If you want to be a writer or creator, start building your audience immediately instead of waiting for permission from traditional gatekeepers. Creative careers require constant adaptation — the pathway to success changes, but opportunities still exist for people willing to hustle. Owning your platform, audience, and intellectual property creates long-term leverage and financial opportunity. Notable Quotes “If you want to be a writer, you just have to be writing.” “The traditional path that was available to me is not available anymore.” “I adore writing books. It’s also a job. This is what pays my mortgage.” Connect with Jo Piazza: Instagram: @JoPiazzaAuthor Website: Jo Piazza Official Website Newsletter: Over the Influence Podcast: Under the Influence Podcast A…","meta_description":"Bestselling author, journalist, and podcast creator Jo Piazza joins Travis to break down the realities of building a career as a modern writer. 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