{"podcast":{"title":"Threat Talks - Your Gateway to Cybersecurity Insights","slug":"threat-talks-your-gateway-to-cybersecurity-insights-6755159","podcast_index_feed_id":6755159,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/threat-talks-your-gateway-to-cybersecurity-insights","website_url":"https://threat-talks.com/","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/wqPeh6mA2wCORVwUDSv8RSIWcuUMzTZP0kjjqamexmc/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8xN2Q1/NGE1NjBhYWY0ZmY5/NzEyODA5OGU3NDdi/MmNmYi5qcGc.jpg","author":"Threat Talks","episode_count":126,"summary":"Threat Talks is your cybersecurity knowledge hub. Unpack the latest threats and explore industry trends with top experts as they break down the complexities of cyber threats. We make complex cybersecurity topics accessible and engaging for everyone, from IT professionals to every day internet users by providing in-depth and first-hand experiences from leading cybersecurity professionals. Join us for monthly deep dives into the dynamic world of cybersecurity, so you can stay informed, and stay secure!","last_synced_at":"2026-06-09T18:17:54.349616+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/threat-talks-your-gateway-to-cybersecurity-insights-6755159"},"episode":{"title":"Beyond NIS2 Compliance","slug":"beyond-nis2-compliance","published_at":"2026-01-21T07:56:39+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/threat-talks-your-gateway-to-cybersecurity-insights-6755159/beyond-nis2-compliance","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/threat-talks-your-gateway-to-cybersecurity-insights-6755159","url":"https://threat-talks.com/beyond-nis2-compliance/","audio_url":"https://2.gum.fm/op3.dev/e/pdcn.co/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/pdst.fm/e/dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/media.transistor.fm/daeb7faf/ceea685b.mp3","summary":"Most organizations ask one question: “Are we compliant?” The question that actually matters is: “Will we still be operating when things go wrong?” In this Threat Talks episode, Lieuwe Jan Koning speaks with Jasper Nagtegaal about what NIS2 is really trying to change - and why cyber resilience fails when organizations treat it as a policy exercise instead of a business risk. This isn’t about regulators. It’s about how digital risk is explained, understood, and acted on - from technical teams to the boardroom - and why organizations that meet NIS2 in practice think very differently from those that end up explaining them. (00:15) - Fine or resilience: the question that changes everything (02:20:26) - Why cyber incidents are business failures, not IT failures (05:30:35) - NIS2 in plain terms: resilience over compliance (06:35:31) - Building resilience before incidents — not after fines (13:31:12) - Risk-based focus: you can’t protect everything (16:12:37) - Why consequences still matter - and when they appear (18:37:18) - What cybersecurity can learn from aviation, energy & healthcare (18:18) - Why digital risk is still treated as a compliance burden (05:18:14) - Why cyber regulation works differently across countries (09:14:13) - What to do tomorrow: risk, boards, and real accountability (21:13:28) - Wrap: resilience first, compliance follows Speakers Lieuwe Jan Koning - Security Operations Center, ON2IT Jasper Nagtegaal - Director of Digital Resilience, Dutch Authority for Digital Infrastructure (RDI) Click here to view the episode transcript.","meta_description":"Most organizations ask one question: “Are we compliant?” The question that actually matters is: “Will we still be operating when things go wrong?” In this…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2858,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/threat-talks-your-gateway-to-cybersecurity-insights-6755159/episodes/beyond-nis2-compliance/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/threat-talks-your-gateway-to-cybersecurity-insights-6755159/beyond-nis2-compliance.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}