{"podcast":{"title":"This Machine Kills","slug":"this-machine-kills-428599","podcast_index_feed_id":428599,"rss_url":"https://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:861066976/sounds.rss","website_url":"https://soundcloud.com/thismachinekillspod","image_url":"https://i1.sndcdn.com/avatars-9ph1FoDtmpfiZRzy-vEy7cg-original.jpg","author":"This Machine Kills","episode_count":490,"summary":"A podcast about technology and political economy …","last_synced_at":"2026-07-25T22:20:21.756589+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/this-machine-kills-428599"},"episode":{"title":"445. What’s Democracy Got to Do With AI? (ft. Bruce Schneier)","slug":"445-what-s-democracy-got-to-do-with-ai-ft-bruce-schneier","published_at":"2026-02-19T04:04:42+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/this-machine-kills-428599/445-what-s-democracy-got-to-do-with-ai-ft-bruce-schneier","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/this-machine-kills-428599","url":"https://soundcloud.com/thismachinekillspod/445-whats-democracy-got-to-do","audio_url":"https://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/2269198094-thismachinekillspod-445-whats-democracy-got-to-do.mp3","summary":"We chat with Bruce Schneier — renowned security technologist and, most recently, co-author of Rewiring Democracy — to discuss the relationship between technology and democracy. We get into how people with money/power use systems like AI to create a flywheel of more money/power. But importantly, as an advocate of public-interest technology, Bruce also lays out how AI is being used to empower citizens and strengthen democracy, and the techno-political conditions needed to build these democratic systems. ••• Check out all of Bruce’s work https://www.schneier.com/ ••• Rewiring Democracy | Bruce Schneier and Nathan Sanders https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262049948/rewiring-democracy/ ••• The Promptware Kill Chain: How Prompt Injections Gradually Evolved into a Multi-Step Malware https://www.schneier.com/academic/archives/2026/01/the-promptware-kill-chain-how-prompt-injections-gradually-evolved-into-a-multi-step-malware.html Standing Plugs: ••• Order Jathan’s book: https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520398078/the-mechanic-and-the-luddite ••• Subscribe to Ed’s substack: https://substack.com/@thetechbubble ••• Subscribe to TMK on patreon for premium episodes: https://www.patreon.com/thismachinekills Hosted by Jathan Sadowski (bsky.app/profile/jathansadowski.com) and Edward Ongweso Jr. (www.x.com/bigblackjacobin). Production / Music by Jereme Brown (bsky.app/profile/jebr.bsky.social)","meta_description":"We chat with Bruce Schneier — renowned security technologist and, most recently, co-author of Rewiring Democracy — to discuss the relationship between tec…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3970,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/this-machine-kills-428599/episodes/445-what-s-democracy-got-to-do-with-ai-ft-bruce-schneier/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/this-machine-kills-428599/445-what-s-democracy-got-to-do-with-ai-ft-bruce-schneier.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}