{"podcast":{"title":"The Will Spencer Podcast","slug":"the-will-spencer-podcast-3324245","podcast_index_feed_id":3324245,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/willspencerpod/","website_url":"https://linktr.ee/willspencer","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/077d5416-18ed-4332-a23d-bbdca2b970df/j_NeNa4rnItxJ1OYds7sRGv3.jpg","author":"Will Spencer","episode_count":273,"summary":"The Will Spencer Podcast is a weekly interview show featuring extended discussions with authors, leaders, and influencers who can help us make sense of our changing world today. I release new episodes every week on Friday.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-will-spencer-podcast-3324245"},"episode":{"title":"DR. GREG GIFFORD – What Therapy Can’t Say: Moral Limits and Modern Counseling","slug":"dr-greg-gifford-what-therapy-can-t-say-moral-limits-and-modern-counseling","published_at":"2026-02-06T11:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-will-spencer-podcast-3324245/dr-greg-gifford-what-therapy-can-t-say-moral-limits-and-modern-counseling","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-will-spencer-podcast-3324245","url":"http://ws-podcast.flywheelstaging.com/captivate-podcast/dr-greg-gifford-what-therapy-cant-say-moral-limits-and-modern-counseling","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/f003a0a2-6964-4de7-a130-aebedcdd35bd.mp3","summary":"What happens when therapy has no way to say a goal is wrong? In this episode, Will Spencer is joined by Dr. Greg Gifford to examine a foundational assumption of modern therapy: that counseling exists to help clients achieve their chosen goals, but without a shared account of moral truth. The conversation begins with a simple but unsettling question: What if a client’s goal is immoral, destructive, or sinful? If therapy cannot judge goals, what kind of formation is actually taking place? From there, Will and Greg explore the difference between mind and brain, the rise of diagnosis-based identity, the authority of the DSM, and why Christians often adopt therapeutic categories without examining the worldview beneath them. This is not an argument against care or compassion. It is a call for discernment, and for recovering a moral and biblical account of the inner life that modern therapy is structurally unable to provide. CONNECT WITH DR. GIFFORD Listen to Transformed on Fortis+ or wherever you get your podcasts: https://fortisplus.org/tabs/listen/podcasts/34123 Buy \"Lies My Therapist Told Me\": https://a.co/d/01NGgZk5 Check out the Fortis Institute YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Fortis.Institute Learn more about Transformed Biblical Counseling Centers: https://transformedbc.com/ The Will Spencer Podcast was formerly known as \"The Renaissance of Men.\" EXITING THE NEW AGE COURSE I spent twenty years in the New Age. This is what I learned on the way out. 13 chapters, study guide, practices inventory, 30+ book bibliography. A new section on Christian apologetics to the New Age is in production. Buy now at $29 and get the upgrade free when the price goes to $49. https://willspencer.co/exit MENTORSHIP FOR MEN I mentor men one-on-one through 12 weeks of biblical mentor…","meta_description":"What happens when therapy has no way to say a goal is wrong? In this episode, Will Spencer is joined by Dr. Greg Gifford to examine a foundational assumpt…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2909,"processing_state":"processed","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-will-spencer-podcast-3324245/episodes/dr-greg-gifford-what-therapy-can-t-say-moral-limits-and-modern-counseling/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-will-spencer-podcast-3324245/dr-greg-gifford-what-therapy-can-t-say-moral-limits-and-modern-counseling.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}