{"podcast":{"title":"The Wild Minds Podcast","slug":"the-wild-minds-podcast-6369140","podcast_index_feed_id":6369140,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/the-wild-minds-podcast/","website_url":"https://www.theoutdoorteacher.com/p/the-wild-minds-podcast","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/891b8b6e-f2b7-4deb-8146-b114b9d808cf/73gzRMDo0dJ-OWjo6u9ojk-S.jpg","author":"The Outdoor Teacher","episode_count":96,"summary":"What if wild, not domesticated, should be our normal instead of factory-farmed lives? What if you could cultivate fulfilling lives and contribute to a healthy natural world? The Wild Minds podcast is brought to you by me, Marina Robb, an author, entrepreneur, Forest School and Nature-based Trainer and Consultant, and pioneer in developing Green programmes for the Mental Health service in the UK. I am the founder of Circle of Life Rediscovery CIC and The Outdoor Teacher and creator of practical online Forest School and nature-based training for people working in mental health, education and business. Tune in for interviews, insights, cutting-edge and actionable approaches to help you to improve your relationship with yourself, others, and the natural world. Music by Geoff Robb","last_synced_at":"2026-06-22T08:18:12.983617+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-wild-minds-podcast-6369140"},"episode":{"title":"Making Nature a Right in Education with Suzanne Welch","slug":"making-nature-a-right-in-education-with-suzanne-welch","published_at":"2025-10-20T04:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-wild-minds-podcast-6369140/making-nature-a-right-in-education-with-suzanne-welch","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-wild-minds-podcast-6369140","url":"https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/making-nature-a-right-in-education-suzanne-welch/","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/83a1c3c7-6b9d-49a7-a1c3-df8d61bfe598.mp3","summary":"My guest today is Suzanne Welch, Education Partnership Manager at the RSPB, the UK’s largest nature conservation charity with over a million members, and in this episode she explores what it would mean to make nature a right in education and why it’s time to rethink the purpose. Suzanne has spent decades in outdoor learning - from taking inner-city children to the Thames foreshore, where subjects like science, history and geography came alive, to now convening national partnerships and influencing education policy. Her work is driven by a vision that every child should have access to high-quality learning in, with and for nature. In this episode Suzanne Welch... Challenges the outdated knowledge-based model and invites a shift toward enquiry and relational learning. Reflects on her early work taking inner-city children to the River Thames and witnessing their transformation outdoors. Emphasises joy, curiosity and presence as the foundations of meaningful learning. Highlights how outdoor experiences naturally connect subjects like science, history, art and geography. Argues that learning shouldn’t be siloed because our minds don’t operate in compartments. Points to the early years sector as an example of where outdoor and child-led learning already works well. Questions about why these principles fade as children move through the education system. Explains how assessment and measurement culture have narrowed what counts as learning. Calls for systemic rather than incremental change and a national conversation about the true purpose of education. Advocates for a statutory right for every child to learn in with and for nature. Notes that equitable access currently depends on postcode school leadership and teacher enthusiasm. Ends with a simple invitation start with one ou…","meta_description":"My guest today is Suzanne Welch, Education Partnership Manager at the RSPB, the UK’s largest nature conservation charity with over a million members, and…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3668,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-wild-minds-podcast-6369140/episodes/making-nature-a-right-in-education-with-suzanne-welch/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-wild-minds-podcast-6369140/making-nature-a-right-in-education-with-suzanne-welch.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}