{"podcast":{"title":"The Wild Minds Podcast","slug":"the-wild-minds-podcast-6369140","podcast_index_feed_id":6369140,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/the-wild-minds-podcast/","website_url":"https://www.theoutdoorteacher.com/p/the-wild-minds-podcast","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/891b8b6e-f2b7-4deb-8146-b114b9d808cf/73gzRMDo0dJ-OWjo6u9ojk-S.jpg","author":"The Outdoor Teacher","episode_count":96,"summary":"What if wild, not domesticated, should be our normal instead of factory-farmed lives? What if you could cultivate fulfilling lives and contribute to a healthy natural world? The Wild Minds podcast is brought to you by me, Marina Robb, an author, entrepreneur, Forest School and Nature-based Trainer and Consultant, and pioneer in developing Green programmes for the Mental Health service in the UK. I am the founder of Circle of Life Rediscovery CIC and The Outdoor Teacher and creator of practical online Forest School and nature-based training for people working in mental health, education and business. Tune in for interviews, insights, cutting-edge and actionable approaches to help you to improve your relationship with yourself, others, and the natural world. Music by Geoff Robb","last_synced_at":"2026-06-22T08:18:12.983617+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-wild-minds-podcast-6369140"},"episode":{"title":"Beyond Profit & Power: The Children’s Fire and the Future of Leadership with Mac Macartney","slug":"beyond-profit-power-the-children-s-fire-and-the-future-of-leadership-with-mac-macartney","published_at":"2025-09-01T04:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-wild-minds-podcast-6369140/beyond-profit-power-the-children-s-fire-and-the-future-of-leadership-with-mac-macartney","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-wild-minds-podcast-6369140","url":"https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-71-mac-macartney-interview","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/72cca74c-ecc8-4fec-b594-30fd13ee24f0.mp3","summary":"In this episode of the Wild Minds Podcast, I’m in conversation with Mac Macartney , a storyteller, leader, and founder of Embercombe , exploring what it means to live and lead in service to life. In this far-reaching conversation, we explore The Children’s Fire — an ancient principle that no law, decision, or action should harm the young of any species, and how it might transform leadership, education, and our relationship with the natural world. We talk about education rooted in the simple yet radical commitment that no child should leave school without feeling good about who they are, and the power of play as an antidote to a culture that leaves so many children, and adults, masking their pain and feeling worthless beneath the surface. Topics include: Exploring The Children’s Fire — the ancient principle that no decision should harm the young of any species. Reimagining education so no child leaves school without feeling good about themselves. Unpacking the hubris of superiority — how our systems consistently enforce it. The power of play and nature connection as antidotes to hopelessness and masking how we truly feel. Insights from Mac’s leadership company on redefining the purpose of business — beyond profit and growth — and valuing well-rounded human beings. Reflections on indigenous wisdom, community ownership, and leadership rooted in service rather than self-interest. A call to rethink wealth, power, and responsibility so that resources and decisions serve the many, not the few. An invitation to imagine a more joyful, courageous, and humane society. Shownotes: https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-71-mac-macartney-interview Music by Geoff Robb:   www.geoffrobb.com   Please Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts If you have enjoyed today…","meta_description":"In this episode of the Wild Minds Podcast, I’m in conversation with Mac Macartney , a storyteller, leader, and founder of Embercombe , exploring what it m…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4482,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-wild-minds-podcast-6369140/episodes/beyond-profit-power-the-children-s-fire-and-the-future-of-leadership-with-mac-macartney/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-wild-minds-podcast-6369140/beyond-profit-power-the-children-s-fire-and-the-future-of-leadership-with-mac-macartney.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}