{"podcast":{"title":"The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe","slug":"the-way-i-heard-it-with-mike-rowe-558009","podcast_index_feed_id":558009,"rss_url":"https://feeds.libsyn.com/74011/rss","website_url":"https://sites.libsyn.com/74011","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/2/1/0/d/210d415ce6cbccdfd959afa2a1bf1c87/TWIHI_logo3.jpg","author":"The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe","episode_count":497,"summary":"What started as a series of short mysteries for the curious mind with a short attention span has evolved into enlightening conversations for the not-so-short attention span. Whether it's a short mystery, a long conversation, or an audio book, The Way I Heard It is a veritable box of chocolates for the ears, because you never know what you're going to get.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-28T20:20:29.035215+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-way-i-heard-it-with-mike-rowe-558009"},"episode":{"title":"475: Jan Jekielek—Killed to Order","slug":"475-jan-jekielek-killed-to-order","published_at":"2026-03-17T10:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-way-i-heard-it-with-mike-rowe-558009/475-jan-jekielek-killed-to-order","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-way-i-heard-it-with-mike-rowe-558009","url":"https://thewayiheardit.rsvmedia.com/475-jan-jekielekkilled-to-order","audio_url":"https://claritaspod.com/measure/dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/1124/prfx.byspotify.com/e/arttrk.com/p/MRWRK/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/thewayiheardit/475_Jan_Jekielek.mp3?dest-id=323283","summary":"Mike talks with Jan Jekielek , senior editor at The Epoch Times and host of American Thought Leaders , to discuss his new book, Killed to Order: China's Organ Harvesting Industry and the True Nature of America's Biggest Adversary . It's an explosive investigation into allegations of state-sanctioned organ harvesting in China. Jan shares what he's learned from years of interviews with doctors, investigators, and even survivors of this gruesome industry where political prisoners are killed for their organs. The conversation is a rumination on good versus evil, raising urgent questions about human rights and medical ethics. Referenced in this episode is Jan's previous appearance on TWIHI 438: Jan Jekielek—The Terrible Truth About China","meta_description":"Mike talks with Jan Jekielek , senior editor at The Epoch Times and host of American Thought Leaders , to discuss his new book, Killed to Order: China's O…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":5619,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-way-i-heard-it-with-mike-rowe-558009/episodes/475-jan-jekielek-killed-to-order/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-way-i-heard-it-with-mike-rowe-558009/475-jan-jekielek-killed-to-order.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}