{"podcast":{"title":"The VBAC Link","slug":"the-vbac-link-743493","podcast_index_feed_id":743493,"rss_url":"https://feeds.redcircle.com/31b184f0-21a8-44d4-ab35-66e003ae7acf","website_url":"https://redcircle.com/shows/the-vbac-link","image_url":"https://media.redcircle.com/images/2026/7/1/2/b2735913-2d14-4d41-921d-c40b22299240_untitled_design__25_.jpg","author":"Lily Wyn & Paige Lloyd","episode_count":473,"summary":"Join us as we share VBAC birth stories to educate and inspire! We are a team of expert doulas trained in supporting VBAC, have had VBAC's of our own, and work extensively with VBAC women and their providers. We are here to provide detailed VBAC and Cesarean prevention stories and facts in a simple, consolidated format. When we were moms preparing to VBAC, it was stories and information like we will be sharing in this podcast that helped fine tune our intuition and build confidence in our birth preparation. We hope this does the same for you! The purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform- it is not to replace advice from any qualified medical professional.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-30T04:21:17.173800+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-vbac-link-743493"},"episode":{"title":"Episode 452 MAC Pioneer Dr. Koen Deurloo + Maternal Assisted Cesareans","slug":"episode-452-mac-pioneer-dr-koen-deurloo-maternal-assisted-cesareans","published_at":"2026-04-15T07:10:15+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-vbac-link-743493/episode-452-mac-pioneer-dr-koen-deurloo-maternal-assisted-cesareans","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-vbac-link-743493","url":"https://thevbaclink.com/","audio_url":"https://audio2.redcircle.com/episodes/93aa0122-8121-466a-ba99-73b7533d96fb/stream.mp3","summary":"As we continue our Cesarean Awareness Month series, CBAC and RCS moms, this one's for you. If your future birth looks like a subsequent cesarean, we want to make that cesarean the best, most peaceful, and empowering experience it can be. Better birth after cesarean means better options, and today's episode takes a deep dive into the option of Maternal Assisted Cesareans (MAC). We are joined today by Dr. Koen Deurloo from the Netherlands. Dr. Koen is a Dutch OB/GYN specializing in perinatology and family-centered cesarean birth. Since 2017, his team has performed more than 300 Maternal Assisted Cesareans, developing one of the most experience-based approaches to this technique. He is also the author of Door de ogen van een gynaecoloog and teaches widely on respectful, trauma-informed birth care. His work focuses on creating transparency and calm so parents feel genuinely involved and supported throughout the entire process, especially in the operating room. In this episode, Dr. Koen walks us through how he was first introduced to the MAC (spoiler: it was a mom and her doula!), how the procedure has evolved over time, what his patients have to say about it (another spoiler: 100% recommend it), and how to advocate for this kind of experience with your provider. Birth after cesarean deserves dignity. It deserves options, and it deserves finding a provider who holds your stories with care and who speaks about birth the way Dr. Koen does. We PROMISE this is an episode you will not want to miss!!! Women of strength, we know how difficult it can be to choose between going for a VBAC, pivoting to a CBAC, or scheduling a repeat cesarean. Whether for medical or personal reasons, your choice is valid and good. There are so many brave ways to birth. As always, our team here at The…","meta_description":"As we continue our Cesarean Awareness Month series, CBAC and RCS moms, this one's for you. If your future birth looks like a subsequent cesarean, we want…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3562,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-vbac-link-743493/episodes/episode-452-mac-pioneer-dr-koen-deurloo-maternal-assisted-cesareans/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-vbac-link-743493/episode-452-mac-pioneer-dr-koen-deurloo-maternal-assisted-cesareans.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}