{"podcast":{"title":"The Unstuck Church Podcast","slug":"the-unstuck-church-podcast-7100908","podcast_index_feed_id":7100908,"rss_url":"https://podcast.theunstuckchurch.com/rss","website_url":"https://theunstuckgroup.com/podcast","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/0/2/8/4/028453fb2970f7ead959afa2a1bf1c87/UnstuckPodcast_Light.jpg","author":"The Unstuck Group","episode_count":467,"summary":"With THE UNSTUCK CHURCH PODCAST, we invite you into the real-time conversations our team is having about church leadership every week. Hosted by Amy Anderson, this podcast explores common challenges in ministry and practical steps for tackling them. It's like getting to be a fly on the wall of our staff meetings. Tune in weekly for: Insights, observations and trends for church leaders from the Unstuck team. Benchmarks in church growth and health from The Unstuck Group's work serving hundreds churches across North America each year. Practical advice to help you lead your church towards sustained health. We think that after listening to The Unstuck Church Podcast, you'll want to start these discussions with your own team at your next staff meeting. Add your thoughts to the conversation on social media using #unstuckchurch.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-24T14:17:31.041489+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-unstuck-church-podcast-7100908"},"episode":{"title":"This Isn't Working Anymore: The Old Way of Thinking About the Spiritual Engagement Journey - Episode 449","slug":"this-isn-t-working-anymore-the-old-way-of-thinking-about-the-spiritual-engagement-journey-episode-449","published_at":"2026-05-20T04:01:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-unstuck-church-podcast-7100908/this-isn-t-working-anymore-the-old-way-of-thinking-about-the-spiritual-engagement-journey-episode-449","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-unstuck-church-podcast-7100908","url":"https://theunstuckgroup.com/the-old-way-of-thinking-about-the-spiritual-engagement-journey-episode-449/","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/leadershipunstuck/e449_-_This_Isnt_Working_Anymore-_The_Old_Way_of_Thinking_About_the_Spiritual_Engagement_Journey_-_51126_2.36PM.mp3?dest-id=412307","summary":"For many years, one of the main reasons for stuckness in the Church was that churches lacked discipleship steps . Instead, they just had a lot of programs for church people to engage in. Now, most churches have done the work of designing next steps for people. They've created a pathway instead of a program calendar. So, why is it still not working? In this episode, Sean and Tiffany break down the most quietly misunderstood thing in church ministry: the Spiritual Engagement Journey. Common gaps in the Spiritual Engagement Journey Why outcomes matter more than participation How to accurately measure spiritual catalysts This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center : Planning Center is software designed to help churches help people. With multiple tools in one connected platform, you can stay organized, communicate with your team, and create meaningful ways to connect with your congregation. Start for free at planningcenter.com —pay only for what you need, and cancel anytime. Join the Conversation on Social Media We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X and on Instagram .","meta_description":"For many years, one of the main reasons for stuckness in the Church was that churches lacked discipleship steps . Instead, they just had a lot of programs…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1313,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-unstuck-church-podcast-7100908/episodes/this-isn-t-working-anymore-the-old-way-of-thinking-about-the-spiritual-engagement-journey-episode-449/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-unstuck-church-podcast-7100908/this-isn-t-working-anymore-the-old-way-of-thinking-about-the-spiritual-engagement-journey-episode-449.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}