{"podcast":{"title":"The Two Matts","slug":"the-two-matts-1119331","podcast_index_feed_id":1119331,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/648c40140701dc00113b4626","website_url":"https://www.thenewworld.co.uk","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/648c40140701dc00113b4626/1770294289897-5eaff282-7ad4-42d1-879f-aac66a205a2c.jpeg","author":"The New World","episode_count":676,"summary":"Join The New World's Matt Kelly and Matt d'Ancona plus occasional guests for weekly chat on politics and media with a side of cultural stuff. A podcast in the spirit of the award-winning New World newspaper - irreverent, witty, surprising, argumentative ... and annoying all the right people. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-24T00:17:21.288305+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-two-matts-1119331"},"episode":{"title":"Special: Exploring the Ghosts of Iron Mountain with Phil Tinline","slug":"special-exploring-the-ghosts-of-iron-mountain-with-phil-tinline","published_at":"2026-05-07T11:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-two-matts-1119331/special-exploring-the-ghosts-of-iron-mountain-with-phil-tinline","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-two-matts-1119331","url":"https://shows.acast.com/the-new-european-podcast/episodes/special-exploring-the-ghosts-of-iron-mountain-with-phil-tinl","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/648c40140701dc00113b4626/e/69fc6ffd7628afabb9971f00/media.mp3","summary":"The Matts sit down with Phil Tinline to discuss his book The Ghosts of Iron Mountain - genuinely one of the most fascinating and consequential stories of our age. Phil tells how a 1967 hoax report into the desirability (or lack of it) of peace in America triggered a culture of conspiracy and paranoia which not only infects American politics today, but sometimes dictates it to a quite surreal degree. It’s a fascinating and wide-ranging conversation... enjoy! And once you’ve listened to the pod, do get Phil’s book The Ghosts of Iron Mountain in paperback, out today! Produced by Matt Withers OFFER: &nbsp;Get&nbsp; The New World &nbsp;for just £1 for the first month. Head to&nbsp; https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","meta_description":"The Matts sit down with Phil Tinline to discuss his book The Ghosts of Iron Mountain - genuinely one of the most fascinating and consequential stories of…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2795,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-two-matts-1119331/episodes/special-exploring-the-ghosts-of-iron-mountain-with-phil-tinline/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-two-matts-1119331/special-exploring-the-ghosts-of-iron-mountain-with-phil-tinline.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}