{"podcast":{"title":"The Symbolic World","slug":"the-symbolic-world-1141216","podcast_index_feed_id":1141216,"rss_url":"https://www.spreaker.com/show/5969183/episodes/feed","website_url":"https://www.spreaker.com/show/the-symbolic-world","image_url":"https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/5c8b85428d97f6a377a1259236c27c52.jpg","author":"Jonathan Pageau","episode_count":456,"summary":"Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-21T12:19:46.042637+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-symbolic-world-1141216"},"episode":{"title":"448 - Fr. Josiah Trenham - How to Integrate Faith, Family, and Nation","slug":"448-fr-josiah-trenham-how-to-integrate-faith-family-and-nation","published_at":"2026-04-29T12:11:31+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-symbolic-world-1141216/448-fr-josiah-trenham-how-to-integrate-faith-family-and-nation","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-symbolic-world-1141216","url":"https://www.spreaker.com/episode/448-fr-josiah-trenham-how-to-integrate-faith-family-and-nation--71706392","audio_url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/71706392/2026_04_fr_josiah_trenham_summit_interview_final_27apr2026_12pm_01.mp3","summary":"I sat down with Fr. Josiah Trenham to talk about something that’s becoming harder to ignore: how to properly order your loyalties. We discussed the tension between faith, nation, family, and personal identity, and what happens when those come into conflict. Join us at the Symbolic World Summit, where Fr. Josiah will be one of the keynote speakers. May 14-16 | Ohio | Keynote speakers: Jonathan Pageau, Fr. Josiah Trenham, Mary Harrington, Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin, Kale Zelden, Annie Crawford, and Heather Pollington Buy your tickets: https://symbolicworldsummit.com/ YouTube version of this episode: https://youtu.be/Ugt7XnbH0tQ 🔓 Become a patron to support us and unlock exclusive monthly symbolism content: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🎧 Listen to and review The Symbolic World podcast: -Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0gI8bUwPtT3gkduHqNh6M5 -Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-symbolic-world/id1386867488 Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/","meta_description":"I sat down with Fr. Josiah Trenham to talk about something that’s becoming harder to ignore: how to properly order your loyalties. We discussed the tensio…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1896,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-symbolic-world-1141216/episodes/448-fr-josiah-trenham-how-to-integrate-faith-family-and-nation/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-symbolic-world-1141216/448-fr-josiah-trenham-how-to-integrate-faith-family-and-nation.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}