{"podcast":{"title":"The Strong Towns Podcast","slug":"the-strong-towns-podcast-496821","podcast_index_feed_id":496821,"rss_url":"https://feed.podbean.com/podcast.strongtowns.org/feed.xml","website_url":"https://strongtowns.podbean.com","image_url":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/2312128/ST_Podcast_Icon9eu8p.jpg","author":"Strong Towns","episode_count":600,"summary":"A weekly conversation on the Strong Towns movement hosted by Charles Marohn. The podcast blends fiscal prudence with good urban design to highlight how America can financially strengthen its cities, towns and neighborhoods and, in the process, make them better places to live. You can support the podcast and become a member of Strong Towns at www.StrongTowns.org.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-13T20:20:39.703428+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-strong-towns-podcast-496821"},"episode":{"title":"Why Messy Cities Depend On People Who Take Action","slug":"why-messy-cities-depend-on-people-who-take-action","published_at":"2026-04-13T10:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-strong-towns-podcast-496821/why-messy-cities-depend-on-people-who-take-action","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-strong-towns-podcast-496821","url":"https://podcast.strongtowns.org/e/why-messy-cities-depend-on-people-who-take-action/","audio_url":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/aqda5eafwg334esf/STP_4-13-26.mp3","summary":"Chuck and Kevin Klinkenberg explore why progress comes from people who stop waiting for permission and start doing things locally. They look at incremental developers, neighborhood groups, and the limits of top-down systems in cities like Kansas City. Along the way, they wrestle with incentives, housing, and how much order a city actually needs. Additional Show Notes Kevin Klinkenberg (LinkedIn) The Messy City Podcast (Spotify) The Messy City (Substack) The Messy City (Site) Chuck Marohn (Substack) This podcast is made possible by Strong Towns members. Thank you!","meta_description":"Chuck and Kevin Klinkenberg explore why progress comes from people who stop waiting for permission and start doing things locally. They look at incrementa…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3407,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-strong-towns-podcast-496821/episodes/why-messy-cities-depend-on-people-who-take-action/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-strong-towns-podcast-496821/why-messy-cities-depend-on-people-who-take-action.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}