{"podcast":{"title":"The State of It","slug":"the-state-of-it-5218105","podcast_index_feed_id":5218105,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/3b497baf-71cb-4c27-ae5a-f1e801822221","website_url":"https://www.thetimes.co.uk","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/621f5d0f4892fde41624d4ac/1758518523558-c1d7432f-3f01-45e2-a3c5-4c0c8592e901.jpeg","author":"Dan Box","episode_count":51,"summary":"Real reporting from the coalface of British politics. Join The Times and The Sunday Times’s political heavyweights Steven Swinford, Patrick Maguire and Lara Spirit as they dig deep into the latest tea room tip offs, reveal insider conversations and bring analysis, authority and insight. No party loyalty. No spin. Not hosted by some old politicians. Taking you into the real business of politics, from those who live it daily. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-22T22:18:38.877022+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-state-of-it-5218105"},"episode":{"title":"Guns or Butter: the great defence spending row","slug":"guns-or-butter-the-great-defence-spending-row","published_at":"2026-04-14T14:55:06+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-state-of-it-5218105/guns-or-butter-the-great-defence-spending-row","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-state-of-it-5218105","url":"https://shows.acast.com/times-daily-world-briefing/episodes/guns-and-butter","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/acast/s/times-daily-world-briefing/e/69de2aaa964c5cf316187754/media.mp3","summary":"Kidney machines replaced with rockets and guns : Keir Starmer says security is his priority but where will the money for defence come from and when will he tell us? On the road with Nigel Farage. If the polls are right, which major cabinet minister is likely to lose their seat? Spoiler: most of them. And as Labour moves closer to the EU, can they convince voters that it's a good idea? Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times Lara Spirit, deputy political editor, The Sunday Times Producers: Euan Dawtrey, Harry Kitson Executive producer: Molly Guinness Picture credit: Getty Images This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe  here . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","meta_description":"Kidney machines replaced with rockets and guns : Keir Starmer says security is his priority but where will the money for defence come from and when will h…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1910,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-state-of-it-5218105/episodes/guns-or-butter-the-great-defence-spending-row/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-state-of-it-5218105/guns-or-butter-the-great-defence-spending-row.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}