{"podcast":{"title":"The Stacking Benjamins Show","slug":"the-stacking-benjamins-show-745268","podcast_index_feed_id":745268,"rss_url":"https://rss.art19.com/stacking-benjamins","website_url":"https://art19.com/shows/stacking-benjamins","image_url":"https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/87/54/4a/99/87544a99-93b0-43d7-ab5a-85740bd3c717/71bf0e7a9549bbb1bd6387061e4babe7de5f5f69871c51df6cacfb170f26c893bd355e9bb2fdd3aa95cab86caf5780843b407fb86f6bfd21137c7217811f3de5.jpeg","author":"Joe Saul-Sehy and Josh ‘OG’ Bannerman, CFP","episode_count":1501,"summary":"Named Best Personal Finance Podcast by Bankrate.com and Kiplinger — and the only podcast the Plutus Awards retired from competition after winning twice — The Stacking Benjamins Show is personal finance that doesn’t put you to sleep. Hosts Joe Saul-Sehy (former 16-year financial advisor, ex-WXYZ-TV “Money Man”) and Josh “OG” Bannerman, CFP (Certified Financial Planner, Bannerman Wealth) sit around the card table in Joe’s mom’s half-finished basement in Texarkana and talk money with the smartest guests in personal finance, investing, and behavioral economics. As Fast Company wrote, the show “strikes a great balance of fun and functional.” Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday: expert guests, real headlines, listener questions, and Doug’s trivia. Topics include investing, retirement planning, budgeting, real estate, behavioral finance, taxes, and financial independence — for anyone who wants to be smarter about money without being talked down to. Subscribe to The 201 — the free newsletter that goes deeper than the show — at stackingbenjamins.com/201","last_synced_at":"2026-07-20T16:21:40.778249+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-stacking-benjamins-show-745268"},"episode":{"title":"Financial Rules That Sound Smart Until You Actually Test Them (Money \"Rules\" We Had to Unlearn) SB1857","slug":"financial-rules-that-sound-smart-until-you-actually-test-them-money-rules-we-had-to-unlearn-sb1857","published_at":"2026-06-19T08:01:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-stacking-benjamins-show-745268/financial-rules-that-sound-smart-until-you-actually-test-them-money-rules-we-had-to-unlearn-sb1857","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-stacking-benjamins-show-745268","url":"https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/345/rss.art19.com/episodes/c05f22d5-ff0a-40e4-a653-76c07895cc77.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","audio_url":"https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/345/rss.art19.com/episodes/c05f22d5-ff0a-40e4-a653-76c07895cc77.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","summary":"Everyone inherited financial wisdom from somewhere -- a parent who clipped coupons at three different grocery stores, a first job, a financial guru, or just the culture you grew up in. Some of those beliefs serve you. Some of them quietly hold you back. Chris Hill of Money Unplugged joins Joe, Paula Pant, and OG to share the money habits they've had to unlearn -- and then the whole group plays a round of In or Out on some of personal finance's most popular rules. What You'll Walk Away With Why Paula's childhood coupon-clipping ritual wasn't really about frugality -- it was about an unstated belief that your time is worth nothing, and how that belief shapes everything Chris Hill's 20-year belief that dividend-paying stocks are for old people -- and the specific Apple moment in 2012 that finally broke it OG's admission that despite the math argument, he's never once seen someone actually execute the \"invest the difference\" 30-year vs. 15-year mortgage strategy in real life Why \"more money will fix this\" is the belief most people never fully unlearn -- and OG's honest accounting of what he thought at $17,000, $170,000, and beyond The In or Out verdict on five popular financial rules: everyone should own a home, pay off debt before investing, never carry a mortgage into retirement, you need a budget to build wealth, and whether financial independence is mostly behavior or math Paula's anti-budget framework -- why it works when there's a wide enough gap between income and spending, and the one scenario where a real budget actually becomes necessary Chris Hill on why surrounding yourself with people who aren't impressed by your success might be the most underrated risk management tool in your financial life The Isaac Newton problem applied to successful people: why brillianc…","meta_description":"Everyone inherited financial wisdom from somewhere -- a parent who clipped coupons at three different grocery stores, a first job, a financial guru, or ju…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3449,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-stacking-benjamins-show-745268/episodes/financial-rules-that-sound-smart-until-you-actually-test-them-money-rules-we-had-to-unlearn-sb1857/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-stacking-benjamins-show-745268/financial-rules-that-sound-smart-until-you-actually-test-them-money-rules-we-had-to-unlearn-sb1857.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}