{"podcast":{"title":"The Speaker Lab Podcast","slug":"the-speaker-lab-podcast-454882","podcast_index_feed_id":454882,"rss_url":"https://rss.art19.com/the-speaker-lab-podcast","website_url":"https://art19.com/shows/the-speaker-lab-podcast","image_url":"https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/2c/ce/0f/5c/2cce0f5c-c25c-4ec1-83b6-f1b22b259e8a/5be90ff2e4148eff82740edd1e07035eed13b2e742a922bee20c53404e275e41c9a9c4983fb1f690632d0b24a5f76c6413d28616c74c72f37221807461f57496.jpeg","author":"The Speaker Lab","episode_count":639,"summary":"Want to learn how to get booked and paid to speak — consistently? The Speaker Lab podcast features business tactics, speaking tips, and insider strategies from TSL CEO Dan Irvin, The Speaker Lab coaches, and some of the world's most successful speakers. You'll learn how to find speaking gigs, build relationships in your industry, negotiate higher speaker fees, and grow your speaking business. Every week, this podcast will give you key insights and practical advice from speakers who have been there and done that and can help you take the next step in your speaking journey. Whether you’re just getting started as a paid speaker or you’re a veteran speaker looking to build and grow your business, The Speaker Lab Podcast is here for you!","last_synced_at":"2026-07-09T22:19:38.585210+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-speaker-lab-podcast-454882"},"episode":{"title":"The Ugly Start: Why Momentum Beats Perfection with Chris Jackson","slug":"the-ugly-start-why-momentum-beats-perfection-with-chris-jackson","published_at":"2026-06-25T10:30:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-speaker-lab-podcast-454882/the-ugly-start-why-momentum-beats-perfection-with-chris-jackson","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-speaker-lab-podcast-454882","url":"https://pdst.fm/e/dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/rss.art19.com/episodes/6135ff49-b3ec-43c5-882e-d4583f534f35.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/rss.art19.com/episodes/6135ff49-b3ec-43c5-882e-d4583f534f35.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","summary":"\"It's never gonna be right. It's gonna be good enough to get started. You have enough to get started — just get started.\" Welcome back to The Speaker Lab Podcast! In this Alumni Spotlight episode, host Dan Irvin sits down with Chris Jackson — a speaker and consultant building his business from the foundation up, getting ready to land his first paid gig in this chapter of his career. And the message he's building on is one every listener needs to feel, not just nod along to: momentum, breaking the inertia of the start, and getting comfortable with an ugly start. Chris's favorite analogy says it all — spaceships burn most of their fuel breaking gravity, not cruising through space. He and Dan unpack how perfectionism keeps speakers grounded, how the Speaker Bureau intake (plus some smart AI brainstorming) finally gave Chris clarity on his niche — helping high-performing dentists shift from clinician to CEO — and the proposal he sat on for weeks despite knowing every single decision maker by name. He just wouldn't pick up the phone. If you've ever been the dog sitting on the nail, this one's for you. Then there's the story that gave both of them goosebumps: 19-year-old Chris bombing his first tour at Atlanta's Cyclorama, until an older gentleman shook his hand, told him to slow down, and gave him a five-dollar tip — his first paid speaking gig and the feedback that launched a lifelong study of the craft. It pairs with the harder lesson that came later: someone told Chris he sounded \"too motivational,\" and he let it shrink him until speaking wasn't fun anymore. The takeaway? Take the feedback that serves your mission, and let the rest go. Whether you're frozen at the starting line or sanding down your voice to fit someone else's idea of you, this episode will get you off th…","meta_description":"\"It's never gonna be right. It's gonna be good enough to get started. You have enough to get started — just get started.\" Welcome back to The Speaker Lab…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1718,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-speaker-lab-podcast-454882/episodes/the-ugly-start-why-momentum-beats-perfection-with-chris-jackson/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-speaker-lab-podcast-454882/the-ugly-start-why-momentum-beats-perfection-with-chris-jackson.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}