{"podcast":{"title":"The Speaker Lab Podcast","slug":"the-speaker-lab-podcast-454882","podcast_index_feed_id":454882,"rss_url":"https://rss.art19.com/the-speaker-lab-podcast","website_url":"https://art19.com/shows/the-speaker-lab-podcast","image_url":"https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/2c/ce/0f/5c/2cce0f5c-c25c-4ec1-83b6-f1b22b259e8a/5be90ff2e4148eff82740edd1e07035eed13b2e742a922bee20c53404e275e41c9a9c4983fb1f690632d0b24a5f76c6413d28616c74c72f37221807461f57496.jpeg","author":"The Speaker Lab","episode_count":639,"summary":"Want to learn how to get booked and paid to speak — consistently? The Speaker Lab podcast features business tactics, speaking tips, and insider strategies from TSL CEO Dan Irvin, The Speaker Lab coaches, and some of the world's most successful speakers. You'll learn how to find speaking gigs, build relationships in your industry, negotiate higher speaker fees, and grow your speaking business. Every week, this podcast will give you key insights and practical advice from speakers who have been there and done that and can help you take the next step in your speaking journey. Whether you’re just getting started as a paid speaker or you’re a veteran speaker looking to build and grow your business, The Speaker Lab Podcast is here for you!","last_synced_at":"2026-07-09T22:19:38.585210+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-speaker-lab-podcast-454882"},"episode":{"title":"How to Sell a Message Nobody's Heard of Yet with Danny Karon","slug":"how-to-sell-a-message-nobody-s-heard-of-yet-with-danny-karon","published_at":"2026-06-11T12:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-speaker-lab-podcast-454882/how-to-sell-a-message-nobody-s-heard-of-yet-with-danny-karon","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-speaker-lab-podcast-454882","url":"https://pdst.fm/e/dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/rss.art19.com/episodes/38f3d627-8bb3-4ad0-96c2-a51231ff6ab1.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/rss.art19.com/episodes/38f3d627-8bb3-4ad0-96c2-a51231ff6ab1.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","summary":"\"I said to my wife literally yesterday: for the first time in 60 years — I just turned 60 — I feel like I've found my true calling.\" Welcome back to The Speaker Lab Podcast! In this episode, host Dan Irvin kicks off a new format — sitting down with real speakers who are a step or two ahead of you, because the fastest way to figure out your next move is to connect with someone living it right now. First up: Danny Karon, a \"lovable lawyer\" who spent 35 years succeeding at traditional law before walking away from it to build something nobody else is building. Danny calls it legal wellness — the unaddressed fourth pillar alongside physical, emotional, and financial wellness. There's a Dr. Phil for your mind and a Suze Orman for your money, but nobody teaching everyday people how to stay out of legal trouble before it starts. Danny is betting his next chapter on that open lane: a new book, a TEDx talk written for the stage, and teaching gigs at Ohio State and the University of Michigan (yes, both — they can coexist). But this conversation doesn't sugarcoat the pivot. Danny is candid about the part nobody warned him about: he thought that because he could speak, the business side would slide right into place. Instead he got the cold-outreach runaround — bounced between university offices, told \"the students organize their own events,\" hearing crickets. He and Dan get tactical about where the breakdown is, why recurring events like orientation week are a goldmine hiding in plain sight, and how to make people care about a topic they've never heard of. Whether you're sitting in a safe career feeling pulled toward a message you can't shake, or you're mid-pivot and hitting the same walls Danny is, this episode is a masterclass in committing to a new lane before the world understa…","meta_description":"\"I said to my wife literally yesterday: for the first time in 60 years — I just turned 60 — I feel like I've found my true calling.\" Welcome back to The S…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2118,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-speaker-lab-podcast-454882/episodes/how-to-sell-a-message-nobody-s-heard-of-yet-with-danny-karon/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-speaker-lab-podcast-454882/how-to-sell-a-message-nobody-s-heard-of-yet-with-danny-karon.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}