{"podcast":{"title":"The So What from BCG","slug":"the-so-what-from-bcg-4409188","podcast_index_feed_id":4409188,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/the-so-what-from-bcg/","website_url":"https://www.bcg.com/podcasts/the-so-what","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/3a90b450-20ea-4fa5-951a-53edaa733085/ooyZ6vRC9N1OIiInTptuGCov.png","author":"Boston Consulting Group BCG","episode_count":135,"summary":"This podcast from Boston Consulting Group looks around the corner of today’s big business and social issues. The goal–the so what–is to make sense of today and prepare busy leaders and executives for the day after tomorrow. Award-winning British journalist Georgie Frost interviews the leading thinkers and doers at BCG on the trends, developments, and ideas that will shape and disrupt the future. This is not your typical business strategy podcast. This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp","last_synced_at":"2026-07-29T12:18:30.218313+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-so-what-from-bcg-4409188"},"episode":{"title":"Don't Be a Statistic. Make Transformation Work.","slug":"don-t-be-a-statistic-make-transformation-work","published_at":"2025-08-27T02:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-so-what-from-bcg-4409188/don-t-be-a-statistic-make-transformation-work","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-so-what-from-bcg-4409188","url":"https://the-so-what-from-bcg.captivate.fm/episode/dont-be-a-statistic-make-transformation-work","audio_url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/episodes.captivate.fm/episode/90589397-9a96-4057-b28d-3ce43a3fff27.mp3","summary":"Transformation isn’t a gamble—it’s science. Kristy Ellmer, a leader with BCG Transform, unpacks the research behind what really makes change work: involving employees in the journey, preparing for the “messy middle,” and building emotional and practical support into the process. Successful efforts focus equally on shifting behaviors and mindsets, not just strategy and structure.   Learn More:  Kristy Ellmer: https://www.bcg.com/about/people/experts/kristy-ellmer   Preorder Kristy's Book: https://www.amazon.com/How-Change-Really-Works-Science-Based/dp/B0FHBXYSLZ BCG’s Latest Thinking on Business Transformation: https://www.bcg.com/capabilities/business-transformation/insights   To Keep Transformations on Track, Incentives Are Crucial: https://www.bcg.com/publications/2025/incentives-are-crucial-for-transformation-success   The Transformation Paradox: How to Grow When the Growing Gets Tough: https://www.bcg.com/publications/2025/transformation-paradox-how-grow-when-growing-gets-tough   This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp","meta_description":"Transformation isn’t a gamble—it’s science. Kristy Ellmer, a leader with BCG Transform, unpacks the research behind what really makes change work: involvi…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1324,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-so-what-from-bcg-4409188/episodes/don-t-be-a-statistic-make-transformation-work/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-so-what-from-bcg-4409188/don-t-be-a-statistic-make-transformation-work.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}