{"podcast":{"title":"The ShiftShapers Podcast","slug":"the-shiftshapers-podcast-1089968","podcast_index_feed_id":1089968,"rss_url":"https://rss.buzzsprout.com/2045524.rss","website_url":"http://www.shiftshapersonline.com","image_url":"https://storage.buzzsprout.com/fvwr8v1pwsksxqclj4477ggzuj9o?.jpg","author":"David Saltzman","episode_count":555,"summary":"Change either paralyzes or energizes - the choice is yours. Hear from businesses and entrepreneurs who have become energized and who have profited by shaping the shifts in their markets and practices. Become a SHIFTSHAPERS INSIDER and get our latest download, advance notice of all podcasts, podcast summaries, and special INSIDER-ONLY content. INSIDER SIGN UP","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-shiftshapers-podcast-1089968"},"episode":{"title":"EP 541 When CFOs Treat Healthcare As Any Other Cost - with Carl Schuessler, Jr.","slug":"ep-541-when-cfos-treat-healthcare-as-any-other-cost-with-carl-schuessler-jr","published_at":"2026-03-24T10:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-shiftshapers-podcast-1089968/ep-541-when-cfos-treat-healthcare-as-any-other-cost-with-carl-schuessler-jr","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-shiftshapers-podcast-1089968","url":"https://www.buzzsprout.com/2045524/episodes/18806371-ep-541-when-cfos-treat-healthcare-as-any-other-cost-with-carl-schuessler-jr.mp3","audio_url":"https://www.buzzsprout.com/2045524/episodes/18806371-ep-541-when-cfos-treat-healthcare-as-any-other-cost-with-carl-schuessler-jr.mp3","summary":"We explore how employers can manage healthcare like any other cost by shifting from insurer-built, passive plans to employer-built, actively managed designs. Carl Schuessler, Jr. shares candid tactics on data, precision testing, and honest change management that help advisors become true risk partners. • defining a health plan mission that aligns to EBITDA and predictability • focusing on data hot spots such as MSK, imaging, pharmacy, and facilities • using billing audits and cost containmen...","meta_description":"We explore how employers can manage healthcare like any other cost by shifting from insurer-built, passive plans to employer-built, actively managed desig…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1607,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-shiftshapers-podcast-1089968/episodes/ep-541-when-cfos-treat-healthcare-as-any-other-cost-with-carl-schuessler-jr/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-shiftshapers-podcast-1089968/ep-541-when-cfos-treat-healthcare-as-any-other-cost-with-carl-schuessler-jr.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}