{"podcast":{"title":"The School of Wellbeing with Meg Durham","slug":"the-school-of-wellbeing-with-meg-durham-4350714","podcast_index_feed_id":4350714,"rss_url":"https://feeds.redcircle.com/b2386019-0885-4669-b29e-af7c568ebc3a","website_url":"https://redcircle.com/shows/the-school-of-wellbeing-with-meg-durham","image_url":"https://media.redcircle.com/images/2026/5/19/0/2753795e-92e8-47b6-bdb0-adc3a6c88d53_he_school_of_wellbeing_podcast_artwork_v01__1_.jpg","author":"Meg Durham","episode_count":190,"summary":"Modern education is intense, fast paced and constantly changing. If you're feeling stretched, overwhelmed or running on empty, you're not the only one. The School of Wellbeing is for teachers, educators, school support staff and school leaders who want to move beyond survival and thrive by design. Hosted by wellbeing speaker and teacher wellbeing specialist Meg Durham, each episode features honest conversations with experienced educators and wellbeing experts who understand the realities of school life. You'll discover practical, evidence informed strategies and inspiring stories to help you navigate the challenges of education with more energy, clarity and confidence, so you can support others without losing yourself along the way.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-14T08:19:41.284584+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-school-of-wellbeing-with-meg-durham-4350714"},"episode":{"title":"Kel Innis: Clear Conversations & Moving From Avoiding To Approaching | Episode 158","slug":"kel-innis-clear-conversations-moving-from-avoiding-to-approaching-episode-158","published_at":"2025-12-04T17:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-school-of-wellbeing-with-meg-durham-4350714/kel-innis-clear-conversations-moving-from-avoiding-to-approaching-episode-158","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-school-of-wellbeing-with-meg-durham-4350714","url":"https://open-mind-education.mykajabi.com/podcasts/the-school-of-wellbeing-with-meg-durham/episodes/2149125513","audio_url":"https://audio4.redcircle.com/episodes/4fa31bb5-bf34-45d1-8794-19caf5569fbc/stream.mp3","summary":"“Conversations are messy, and that's okay.\" - Kel Innis In this episode of the School of Wellbeing podcast, Meg Durham sits down with primary school principal Kel Innis for an honest and practical conversation about the moments in school life that many of us try to avoid. Together they explore the reality of important conversations, the emotions that arise and the skills that help us approach these moments with more care and confidence. You will hear them unpack the timing of conversations, the role of emotional intelligence and the importance of pausing before responding. Kel shares how she prepares herself for important conversations, how she stays steady in the moment and why following up afterwards is essential for building trust. This episode will support you to strengthen your communication, build connection and create a school culture where staff, students and families feel seen, heard and respected. ---- Chapter Markers: 01:30 The tension of conversations we cannot avoid 05:45 Kel’s early leadership experiences and what has changed 11:10 Planned and spontaneous conversations 16:00 Balancing care and professionalism 22:30 Emotional intelligence in challenging moments 28:55 The role of transparency in leadership 34:40 Moving from avoidance to approaching 41:05 Repairing after missteps 47:20 Creating a culture of clear and compassionate communication 52:10 Final reflections   ---- Deliberate Actions: Identify one conversation you have been avoiding and write down why it matters. Prepare yourself by choosing the right time, place and purpose for the conversation. Pause before responding so you can stay steady and speak with clarity. ---- Episode 158 Shownotes - Click   here . ---- Meg Durham -   Website   |   LinkedIn   |   I…","meta_description":"“Conversations are messy, and that's okay.\" - Kel Innis In this episode of the School of Wellbeing podcast, Meg Durham sits down with primary school princ…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2295,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-school-of-wellbeing-with-meg-durham-4350714/episodes/kel-innis-clear-conversations-moving-from-avoiding-to-approaching-episode-158/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-school-of-wellbeing-with-meg-durham-4350714/kel-innis-clear-conversations-moving-from-avoiding-to-approaching-episode-158.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}