{"podcast":{"title":"The School Leadership Show","slug":"the-school-leadership-show-1097468","podcast_index_feed_id":1097468,"rss_url":"https://theschoolleadershipshow.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"http://theschoolleadershipshow.libsyn.com/podcast","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/6/8/3/9/6839a426de8b74c1d959afa2a1bf1c87/School_Leadership_Show_Podcast_Cover-20250911-yha92psf92.png","author":"Michael Doughty","episode_count":144,"summary":"This is The School Leadership Show. Learn everything you need to know to thrive in school administration. The School Leadership Show is where ordinary school administrators become extraordinary leaders. The only podcast dedicated to helping practicing and aspiring school leaders realize their potential, advance their careers, and achieve work-life balance, The School Leadership Show brings together the greatest minds from inside and outside of education to deliver you the insights and tools you need to succeed in school leadership.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-27T20:23:40.677597+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-school-leadership-show-1097468"},"episode":{"title":"S9 E12: Are You a Pig Pen? Self-Awareness & Practical Leadership Skills for Dysregulated Times","slug":"s9-e12-are-you-a-pig-pen-self-awareness-practical-leadership-skills-for-dysregulated-times","published_at":"2025-08-14T10:31:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-school-leadership-show-1097468/s9-e12-are-you-a-pig-pen-self-awareness-practical-leadership-skills-for-dysregulated-times","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-school-leadership-show-1097468","url":"https://schoolleadershipshow.com/s9-e12-are-you-a-pig-pen-self-awareness-practical-leadership-skills-for-dysregulated-times","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/theschoolleadershipshow/S9_E12_Are_You_a_Pig_Pen_Self-Awareness__Practical_Leadership_Skills_for_Disregulated_Times.mp3?dest-id=272893","summary":"Feeling overwhelmed by the complexities of leadership today? Tune in to learn how building your self-regulation can help you navigate dysregulated times and have more effective conversations. In this episode, my co-host Jenn David-Lang and I had the pleasure of speaking with the amazing Jennifer Abrams, whom I see as a guru of interpersonal relations in education. Jennifer, a full-time international consultant and author of impactful books like Having Hard Conversations and Stretching Your Learning Edge: Growing (up) at Work, joined us to explore the critical topic of self-regulation in dysregulated times. We talked about living in a VUCA world, Volatile, Uncertain, Complex, and Ambiguous, and how we need to build complexity fitness by developing our cognitive, emotional, and psychological skills. Jennifer shared that becoming more self-regulated involves building self-awareness, like cleaning up our emotional \"dust\". It turns out only about 10-15% of people are truly self-aware, and one way to improve is by bravely asking for 360 feedback from your team. We also dove into practical skills for leaders navigating challenging moments, such as learning to suspend certainty that your way is the only way. Saying \"Tell me more\" instead of reacting can be incredibly powerful. For extroverts like me, focusing on listening instead of jumping in is key. I shared my favorite tactic when someone is stressed: asking, \"How long do we have to make this decision?\". This simple question helps shift from feeling \"subject\" to circumstances to viewing them more \"objectively\". Jennifer left us with powerful parting advice: \"Go have humane, growth-producing conversations. That's the goal.\". Jennifer Abrams' Newsletter: jenniferabrams.com If you have questions, feedback, or suggestions for f…","meta_description":"Feeling overwhelmed by the complexities of leadership today? Tune in to learn how building your self-regulation can help you navigate dysregulated times a…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2597,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-school-leadership-show-1097468/episodes/s9-e12-are-you-a-pig-pen-self-awareness-practical-leadership-skills-for-dysregulated-times/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-school-leadership-show-1097468/s9-e12-are-you-a-pig-pen-self-awareness-practical-leadership-skills-for-dysregulated-times.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}