{"podcast":{"title":"The Scenic Route with Victoria Steward","slug":"the-scenic-route-with-victoria-steward-7782802","podcast_index_feed_id":7782802,"rss_url":"https://api.riverside.fm/hosting/S6ZcgSiO.rss","website_url":"www.victoria-steward.com","image_url":"https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/951714c0-7b4d-4675-bd36-b3bd278f8546/logos/46260bbc-d587-4fc0-b414-b393efa55bf4.png","author":"Victoria Steward","episode_count":19,"summary":"What if the detour was never a wrong turn? We get handed one map early on: the superhighway. Pick the career, hit the milestones, stay in the fast lane somebody else drew for us. And one day a lot of us look up and realize it's been heading somewhere we never actually chose. This is a show about the people who got off it. I'm Victoria Steward. I spent 20 years as a federal civilian engineer/project manager before I left on a gut feeling and started taking my own scenic route. Every week I sit down with interesting people who made a change, sometimes sudden, sometimes so gradual they almost missed it, that sent their life somewhere they never saw coming. The kind of stories that inspire you to start dreaming into your own. If you've started to wonder whether there's a different road available to you, you're in exactly the right place. ✨ New episodes every week. Subscribe so you don't miss one.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-22T22:19:55.428806+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-scenic-route-with-victoria-steward-7782802"},"episode":{"title":"Eight-Year Cycles: Giving Yourself Permission to Not Know Yet with Chetal Patel","slug":"eight-year-cycles-giving-yourself-permission-to-not-know-yet-with-chetal-patel","published_at":"2026-04-22T16:07:03+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-scenic-route-with-victoria-steward-7782802/eight-year-cycles-giving-yourself-permission-to-not-know-yet-with-chetal-patel","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-scenic-route-with-victoria-steward-7782802","url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/89827d2b9489a713cde2bede49c464692d100e9ba4a5f14ccf6545d97cc55c07/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIwMzQ0YTg5MC0wNjJiLTQ2ZDItYWIyMi0zYTViYWFiYmIxOTkiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI5NTE3MTRjMC03YjRkLTQ2NzUtYmQzNi1iM2JkMjc4Zjg1NDYiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTlmNjIyYzM1MDAxYzBlOWJlNGFlNGIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjllOGUxMTUxMTYwZmIzNzdkNzgxMWI2L3ZpY3Rvcmlhcy1zdHVkaW8tUGhZZDAtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi00LTIyX18xNi01NC0xMy5tcDMifQ==.mp3","audio_url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/89827d2b9489a713cde2bede49c464692d100e9ba4a5f14ccf6545d97cc55c07/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIwMzQ0YTg5MC0wNjJiLTQ2ZDItYWIyMi0zYTViYWFiYmIxOTkiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI5NTE3MTRjMC03YjRkLTQ2NzUtYmQzNi1iM2JkMjc4Zjg1NDYiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTlmNjIyYzM1MDAxYzBlOWJlNGFlNGIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjllOGUxMTUxMTYwZmIzNzdkNzgxMWI2L3ZpY3Rvcmlhcy1zdHVkaW8tUGhZZDAtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi00LTIyX18xNi01NC0xMy5tcDMifQ==.mp3","summary":"What if the version of you who doesn’t know what comes next isn’t lost... she’s just between chapters? My friend Chetal Patel has lived her life in eight-year cycles. Eight years on Wall Street. Eight years teaching English to immigrant kids in NYC public schools. Eight years raising her children, including twins who came after a long and hard infertility journey. And now: a fourth cycle, a certified health coach who specializes in change itself, sitting in the in-between and letting herself not know yet what comes next. We met in Emily Fletcher’s Evidence of Magic community, and the way Chetal talks about her own life stopped me the first time I heard it. Not because she made dramatic leaps, but because she has this uncanny ability to feel when a chapter is truly closing and to trust that signal, even when everyone around her is asking why she would walk away from something good. In this conversation, we talk about the moment 9/11 planted the first seed of “what am I actually doing with my life,” leaving six figures for a classroom because a cousin asked the right question at the right time, what postpartum depression taught her about the difference between the life that looks perfect on paper and the life you can actually live in, and why sitting in the unknown is still the muscle she is building, even now. This one is for you if you know something is shifting but you don’t yet have a name for what comes next. Chetal makes that space feel a lot less lonely. What You'll Hear On This Episode 🌟 How 9/11 cracked open the first real question Chetal had ever asked herself about her own life, and why it took years for that question to actually change anything 🌟 What it felt like to leave a six-figure Wall Street career in her mid-20s when nobody around her understood why, a…","meta_description":"What if the version of you who doesn’t know what comes next isn’t lost... she’s just between chapters? 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