{"podcast":{"title":"The Rest Is Politics: Leading","slug":"the-rest-is-politics-leading-5966602","podcast_index_feed_id":5966602,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/GLT9029505120","website_url":"http://therestispolitics.com/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/f416b74a-2425-11ee-962c-67efcc0de41e/image/5f89de4600ae90ec20ead3e8efb3a3c0.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Goalhanger","episode_count":196,"summary":"The Rest Is Politics’ Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart interview politicians, leaders, intellectuals, and more. From inside and outside of politics, guests join Rory and Alastair to discuss life, leadership, and the philosophy that’s led them to success in their chosen field. Their conversations cover key political events, global affairs, and the big ideas shaping the world today, offering listeners in-depth perspectives from those at the heart of change. The Rest Is Politics Plus: Become a member for exclusive bonus content, early access to Question Time episodes to live show tickets, ad-free listening for both TRIP and Leading, our exclusive newsletter, discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, and our members’ chatroom on Discord. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-15T06:17:40.610953+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-rest-is-politics-leading-5966602"},"episode":{"title":"178. Gavin Newsom: The Next President Of The United States?","slug":"178-gavin-newsom-the-next-president-of-the-united-states","published_at":"2026-03-02T00:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-rest-is-politics-leading-5966602/178-gavin-newsom-the-next-president-of-the-united-states","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-rest-is-politics-leading-5966602","url":"https://pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/GLT9547241083.mp3?updated=1772810902","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/GLT9547241083.mp3?updated=1772810902","summary":"What happened on a ridiculous midnight phone call between Donald Trump and the Governor of California? Why does Gavin Newsom believe the President will be crushed in the mid-terms? What is Newsom’s tactic for trolling Trump? Will Newsom run for president in 2028? Alastair and Rory are joined by Gavin Newsom, Governor of California, to answer all of this and more. Search IG.com to find out more and/or Look for IG in your app store. Join The Rest Is Politics Plus: Start your free trial at therestispolitics.com to unlock exclusive bonus content – including Rory and Alastair’s miniseries – plus ad-free listening, early access to episodes and live show tickets, an exclusive members’ newsletter, discounted book prices, and a private chatroom on Discord. Social Producer: Celine Charles Video Editor: Lorcan Moullier Producer: Alice Horrell Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen Head of Politics: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices","meta_description":"What happened on a ridiculous midnight phone call between Donald Trump and the Governor of California? Why does Gavin Newsom believe the President will be…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3244,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-rest-is-politics-leading-5966602/episodes/178-gavin-newsom-the-next-president-of-the-united-states/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-rest-is-politics-leading-5966602/178-gavin-newsom-the-next-president-of-the-united-states.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}