{"podcast":{"title":"The Paper Jacket Podcast","slug":"the-paper-jacket-podcast-7101821","podcast_index_feed_id":7101821,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/109ef56f0/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://paper-jacket.com","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/44516476/2cdbedb3f33b5f30.png","author":"Paper Jacket","episode_count":38,"summary":"In this podcast series, we interview business owners, agency owners, non-profit executives, and artists about their journey of growing a brand, following their passion, presenting what they do, and how they have used media in their marketing to push those objectives and accomplish those goals. The Paper Jacket Podcast explores entrepreneurship at the grass roots. We hope that these stories give you inspiration, ideas, and insights to grow your business, begin your journey, or simply just help you accomplish personal goals. New episodes every 2 weeks!","last_synced_at":"2026-06-24T08:18:50.505197+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-paper-jacket-podcast-7101821"},"episode":{"title":"Ep 13: Faith, Business & Planting Without a Plan | The Paper Jacket Podcast","slug":"ep-13-faith-business-planting-without-a-plan-the-paper-jacket-podcast","published_at":"2025-04-02T20:08:45+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-paper-jacket-podcast-7101821/ep-13-faith-business-planting-without-a-plan-the-paper-jacket-podcast","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-paper-jacket-podcast-7101821","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/paper-jacket-podcast/episodes/Ep-13-Faith--Business--Planting-Without-a-Plan--The-Paper-Jacket-Podcast-e38tksh","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/109ef56f0/podcast/play/109023569/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-8-30%2F408415482-48000-2-669f29736ef4d4aa.mp3","summary":"🔥Pastor or Entrepreneur? Thom Pirone on Building Churches, Businesses & Living for the Kingdom What happens when a successful entrepreneur trades spreadsheets for sermons? In this episode, we sit down with Thom Pirone , pastor of Church of the Way , and unpack what it really means to follow a calling—even when it doesn’t look like the “strategic plan.” We get into the trenches: business, faith, money, identity, purpose, and why Thom believes the church should operate more like a family than a Fortune 500. Whether you’re a pastor, entrepreneur, or just figuring out your next faithful step—this conversation is packed with raw wisdom, humble fire, and zero sugarcoating. Timestamps: 00:00 – Meet Thom Pirone: Pastor, Entrepreneur, Church Planter 00:41 – Can Pastors Be Business Owners? (Spoiler: Yes) 02:10 – What Is the “Business” of the Church, Really? 04:00 – Thom’s Backstory: From Lutheran School to Sales Manager to Pastor 07:00 – A Real Faith Crisis That Sparked His Transformation 10:30 – The True Meaning of Repentance & Following Jesus 12:45 – Calling vs. Timing: Why Thom Waited to Go Into Ministry 14:15 – Balancing Work, Provision & Calling 18:00 – Faith, Business & Living Without Asking for Money 22:00 – Planting a Church (Without a Marketing Plan) 24:30 – Why Big Churches Aren’t Always the Blueprint 26:00 – What Makes Church of the Way Different 29:00 – Ministry to the Marginalized (And Why That Matters) 31:00 – Success ≠ Big Numbers 34:00 – Every Christian’s Calling: Faithfulness in the Present 36:00 – How Entrepreneurs Can Live \"Missionally\" (Without Being Pastors) 40:00 – Why Church Is More Like Family Than a Sunday Event 45:00 – One Church, One Gospel, One Mission 🗣 Thom Pirone: “You can build a massive church or a booming business—but if it’s not…","meta_description":"🔥Pastor or Entrepreneur? Thom Pirone on Building Churches, Businesses & Living for the Kingdom What happens when a successful entrepreneur trades spre…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2866,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-paper-jacket-podcast-7101821/episodes/ep-13-faith-business-planting-without-a-plan-the-paper-jacket-podcast/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-paper-jacket-podcast-7101821/ep-13-faith-business-planting-without-a-plan-the-paper-jacket-podcast.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}